I know I am going to take some heat for this, but be that as it may.....I was washing my 6 and my fiancees 6 today and looking at the channels of the doors which I found the rust/staining issue with. I decided just for the heck of it in a few spots to scrape off the "rust" with my finger nail and you will never guess what I found under it.....PAINT! Not exposed metal with left over rust residue as you would expect if the car were actually rusting. I even scraped the area at the end of the channel and noticed that on the spots that were totally wet the substance actually came off kind of sticky and almost looked soapy. I found this on the few spots on both cars. On spots that weren't wet the substance was hard and kind of flaked off, but had clean paint under it. This is not what you would expect of a surface that is rusting, the paint would be gone! I don't work for Mazda, so this isn't propoganda. I just think based on what I found today that it is reasonably possible that this isn't rust and is actually something that is dried out and is a rust color. Flame if you may but check for yourself.........
Blue Mazda
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wel, the though on this Blue Mazda is that the rust you can see if merely just rust dust that is coming form inside the channel, and I don't think you can see inside the channel well enough to determine how things are in there. Although I'm sure many people would love to find out this is NOT rust, I think we have to accept the fact
wel, the though on this Blue Mazda is that the rust you can see if merely just rust dust that is coming form inside the channel, and I don't think you can see inside the channel well enough to determine how things are in there. Although I'm sure many people would love to find out this is NOT rust, I think we have to accept the fact
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Dang! there goes over resale value back up!
you just crushed the hopes of many who were waiting to buy a MZ6 used at shit low resale values.
Dang! there goes over resale value back up!
you just crushed the hopes of many who were waiting to buy a MZ6 used at shit low resale values.
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I have a 6 that is totaled at the body shop. If I can convince the insurance company to let me have the door I will mail the window frame to any moderator on this forum. I personally don't know what will be found.
We gotta put this thing to bed.
Btw has anybody bought the movie rights to the 55 pager yet?
I have a 6 that is totaled at the body shop. If I can convince the insurance company to let me have the door I will mail the window frame to any moderator on this forum. I personally don't know what will be found.
We gotta put this thing to bed.
Btw has anybody bought the movie rights to the 55 pager yet?
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Make sure to put the door on a stick.
That way you'd have "rusted mazda6 door" on a stick.
Sell on ebay for millions.
Make sure to put the door on a stick.
That way you'd have "rusted mazda6 door" on a stick.
Sell on ebay for millions.
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Ok how bout here?
Britney Spears is driving around in an rx8.
Ok how bout here?
Britney Spears is driving around in an rx8.
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There is something comming from inside the channel for sure, but when it is wet it doesn't look like rust, feel like rust, etc. It almost seems like a film and is much harder when it is dry. The wierd part is at the ends of the channels, where it really looks like rust, just by looking at it at face value, you would expect to scrape away this suff if it was rust and have exposed metal under it, but you have paint under it, fully intact. Where it looked like the metal was rusting, paint bubbled off the very ends of these channel/hooks for the moldings is now clean paint just by scraping a nail across it??? Dosen't strike me as a rust if the paint is still intact? Couldn't it be possible that something else is oozing out of there and drying every time the car goes from wet to dry? Maybe that is why they are offering this as a fix, so this stuff doesn't come out from under there when the car gets wet and people shut up about it?
There is something comming from inside the channel for sure, but when it is wet it doesn't look like rust, feel like rust, etc. It almost seems like a film and is much harder when it is dry. The wierd part is at the ends of the channels, where it really looks like rust, just by looking at it at face value, you would expect to scrape away this suff if it was rust and have exposed metal under it, but you have paint under it, fully intact. Where it looked like the metal was rusting, paint bubbled off the very ends of these channel/hooks for the moldings is now clean paint just by scraping a nail across it??? Dosen't strike me as a rust if the paint is still intact? Couldn't it be possible that something else is oozing out of there and drying every time the car goes from wet to dry? Maybe that is why they are offering this as a fix, so this stuff doesn't come out from under there when the car gets wet and people shut up about it?
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I know I'd like people to shutup about it.. oh wait, i've said that before huh? :spin
I know I'd like people to shutup about it.. oh wait, i've said that before huh? :spin
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My gosh. Some people here REALLY, REALLY, don't want to believe it's rust residue. Chikoo---First, I thought you didn't have the rust, now you do? What's going on? It's like some of you people are going through the stages of grieving. The second someone in here suggests that it might not be rust, we have people ready to jump on that right away. "YAY YAY, my resale value isn't going to be shit!!!" Seriously, keep telling yourselves that it isn't rust, it'll go away. I guess some people are just going to believe what they want to believe. The first stage of grieving is denial.....
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My gosh. Some people here REALLY, REALLY, don't want to believe it's rust residue. Chikoo---First, I thought you didn't have the rust, now you do? What's going on? It's like some of you people are going through the stages of grieving. The second someone in here suggests that it might not be rust, we have people ready to jump on that right away. "YAY YAY, my resale value isn't going to be shit!!!" Seriously, keep telling yourselves that it isn't rust, it'll go away. I guess some people are just going to believe what they want to believe. The first stage of grieving is denial.....
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Hmmmm..........when I met with the GM on Friday, and he had the body shop guys take a look at it...........3 out of 3.........looked......poked, and prodded. "Yes".....it's rust they said. The GM also said it was rust.
If you don't have the rust..........well I'm really glad for you. That's great. But since you don't have the rust...............why do you care what the rest of us think. In fact......shut the fuck up already!
There are a few people who don't have the rust that acutally know what we are feeling and going thru.......and they are being supportive. I personally think the bashers are the ones who need to make themselves feel better about their own M6.
We all own the same cars...........(M6 that is)......and this is a CLUB that we joined to discuss all aspects of the car. So why would you try to bring down, belittle, or poke fun of someone who has concerns about their car? I just don't get it...........again, I guess it makes you feel better. I dunno.
But in case I forgot to mention...........if you don't have the rust.......then great, hurray for you. I am seriously glad that you don't have to worry about this problem. Those of us who do........are in doubt...........some stronger than others.........I mean.......hey.......I have 20 grand to throw around...who cares about a potential long term problem........RIGHT?...................but how could you know what the majority of us are feeling...........so once again.........shut the fuck up!
Mark
Hmmmm..........when I met with the GM on Friday, and he had the body shop guys take a look at it...........3 out of 3.........looked......poked, and prodded. "Yes".....it's rust they said. The GM also said it was rust.
If you don't have the rust..........well I'm really glad for you. That's great. But since you don't have the rust...............why do you care what the rest of us think. In fact......shut the fuck up already!
There are a few people who don't have the rust that acutally know what we are feeling and going thru.......and they are being supportive. I personally think the bashers are the ones who need to make themselves feel better about their own M6.
We all own the same cars...........(M6 that is)......and this is a CLUB that we joined to discuss all aspects of the car. So why would you try to bring down, belittle, or poke fun of someone who has concerns about their car? I just don't get it...........again, I guess it makes you feel better. I dunno.
But in case I forgot to mention...........if you don't have the rust.......then great, hurray for you. I am seriously glad that you don't have to worry about this problem. Those of us who do........are in doubt...........some stronger than others.........I mean.......hey.......I have 20 grand to throw around...who cares about a potential long term problem........RIGHT?...................but how could you know what the majority of us are feeling...........so once again.........shut the fuck up!
Mark
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My gosh. Some people here REALLY, REALLY, don't want to believe it's rust residue. Chikoo---First, I thought you didn't have the rust, now you do? What's going on? ....[/b][/quote]
I had two spots at the end of the channel.
I rubbed them off and they have not come back yet, 3 months later and many rains and washes.
What do u want me to believe?
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My gosh. Some people here REALLY, REALLY, don't want to believe it's rust residue. Chikoo---First, I thought you didn't have the rust, now you do? What's going on? ....[/b][/quote]
I had two spots at the end of the channel.
I rubbed them off and they have not come back yet, 3 months later and many rains and washes.
What do u want me to believe?
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I have the rust Mr. STFU.
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Going to yell at me now?
Or is this better?
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Maybe you should change your alias to STFU...I'm sure that would help in arguments, since you wouldn't need to type it out so often.
I have the rust Mr. STFU.
Going to yell at me now?
Or is this better?
Maybe you should change your alias to STFU...I'm sure that would help in arguments, since you wouldn't need to type it out so often.
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Well it kinda felt good to type it out............and I wasn't yelling at anyone in specific.......just those who are being smart asses in regards to the the issue.
And I'll make you a deal, since you think my post was........I'm assuming.......a little unwarranted.........
When they fix my car, and this problem is gone............I'll shut the fuck up!.........ohhhhh........sorry..........I'll STFU.
Mark
Well it kinda felt good to type it out............and I wasn't yelling at anyone in specific.......just those who are being smart asses in regards to the the issue.
And I'll make you a deal, since you think my post was........I'm assuming.......a little unwarranted.........
When they fix my car, and this problem is gone............I'll shut the fuck up!.........ohhhhh........sorry..........I'll STFU.
Mark
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Apex, it looks like rust, no doubt, but go to the very end of the channel and scrape the rust colored crust off the end and you may see that the paint is fully intact, not the mark of a surface that has rusted, at least that was my experience yesterday. It looks like rust! I think there is a shot that it isn't! Maybe give your car a look before you throw this out as tripe being spewed by some idiot? Or not? I just think it is a possibility, which would be, well GOOD NEWS, right? Am I totally wrong here? When you have surface rust, or rust coming from the inside under the paint out that is visible, the paint would NOT be intact? I gave my car AND my fiancee's a look yesterday and both cars were consistent when I scraped the crust away. Rust forms on metal, not paint, right?
My fiancee's car had two spots on the floor of the exit of the pasengers rear door next to the plastic kick plate. I scraped them off with my thumb and there was paint under the spots that was fully intact, but at first glance it looked like rust and we were both like.....WTF!!!!
Apex, it looks like rust, no doubt, but go to the very end of the channel and scrape the rust colored crust off the end and you may see that the paint is fully intact, not the mark of a surface that has rusted, at least that was my experience yesterday. It looks like rust! I think there is a shot that it isn't! Maybe give your car a look before you throw this out as tripe being spewed by some idiot? Or not? I just think it is a possibility, which would be, well GOOD NEWS, right? Am I totally wrong here? When you have surface rust, or rust coming from the inside under the paint out that is visible, the paint would NOT be intact? I gave my car AND my fiancee's a look yesterday and both cars were consistent when I scraped the crust away. Rust forms on metal, not paint, right?
My fiancee's car had two spots on the floor of the exit of the pasengers rear door next to the plastic kick plate. I scraped them off with my thumb and there was paint under the spots that was fully intact, but at first glance it looked like rust and we were both like.....WTF!!!!
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Have any of you tried some Rust stain remover from say Home Depot or something?
Have any of you tried some Rust stain remover from say Home Depot or something?
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Maybe my common sense has left me, but I thought rust particles can spread via a carrier (i.e., water - like, when it rains) and the rust particles will then be deposited where the carrier stops and dries, hence you are able to rub it off. You aren't seeing the source of the rust when you can rub it off good paint.
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If you don't have the rust and are tired of these threads and don't have anything POSITIVE to contribute, then quit posting to them. You are really starting to bore me.
Maybe my common sense has left me, but I thought rust particles can spread via a carrier (i.e., water - like, when it rains) and the rust particles will then be deposited where the carrier stops and dries, hence you are able to rub it off. You aren't seeing the source of the rust when you can rub it off good paint.
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If you don't have the rust and are tired of these threads and don't have anything POSITIVE to contribute, then quit posting to them. You are really starting to bore me.
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Arock,
Glacier Silver.
The second photo is taken on the roof of my other car. (Which is 30 years old).
Arock,
Glacier Silver.
The second photo is taken on the roof of my other car. (Which is 30 years old).
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