Humm.. don't think many speed owners would go with coils... they just don't seem to be as reliable... I had some in my civic... w/o any problems.. aside from the PITA it is to adjust them... and they get clogged with rocks/dirt... bla bla bla....

Also.. that was a civic.. speed6 is designed for a lot harder corners and such... not sure how well coilovers would hold up to that..

 

Humm.. don't think many speed owners would go with coils... they just don't seem to be as reliable... I had some in my civic... w/o any problems.. aside from the PITA it is to adjust them... and they get clogged with rocks/dirt... bla bla bla....

Also.. that was a civic.. speed6 is designed for a lot harder corners and such... not sure how well coilovers would hold up to that..[/b]

WHAT? Are you implying that coilovers are the lesser option for tuning suspension? Read the Bilstein thread...and realize what a PITA it can be to try and match a shock and a spring and then you can't adjust ride height. Coilovers come as pre-matched shock and spring...the only problems that are associated with coilovers vs. other options are in the method of adjustment...some lesser models don't hold ride height very well. But a good coilover (like HKS) is a great peice of engineering.

 

If coilovers were matched truly springs and shocks, then they wouldn't need to be adjustable. There's really just one perfect setting for a certain spring rate, and it will be perfect for street and track use simultaneously.



I'd go with Koni's and RPM K-Spec springs.

 

HKS makes a nice coilover set I've heard.

 

Humm.. don't think many speed owners would go with coils... they just don't seem to be as reliable... I had some in my civic... w/o any problems.. aside from the PITA it is to adjust them... and they get clogged with rocks/dirt... bla bla bla....

Also.. that was a civic.. speed6 is designed for a lot harder corners and such... not sure how well coilovers would hold up to that..[/b]

LMFAO

No wonder you owned a civic...

 

? I suppose i'll take that as you making fun of the fact that not all of us had daddy but us a nice car in highschool? I'm in fact GLAD I owned that little thing.. and spent the time and money I did on it... helped me learn what to do.. and not to do when I finally could get a decent ride...

Slapping a set of coilovers on a vehicle w/o replacing ball joints and shocks and everything else... When you slam a vehicle.. the stock camber adjustments can only go so far... now... i've not checked into the speed6... however i'm willing to bed they'll only allow so much adjustment before camber cannot be fixed... and you eat up tires....

So aside from the ride quality issues when not replacing all the correct parts... camber is yet another issue to deal with... I was trying to inform the poster that unless he plans on replacing more than just the springs... he should think twice... Unless he wants to buy new tires often... and destroy his ride quality...

Yes they make quality coils... and shock kits... And adjusting them to be perfect matches honestly isn't a HUGE deal... depending on the application... And of the speed's i've seen lowered so far... none appeared to have camber issues so he's pretty safe doing it with this vehicle it appears...

 

Humm.. don't think many speed owners would go with coils... they just don't seem to be as reliable... I had some in my civic... w/o any problems.. aside from the PITA it is to adjust them... and they get clogged with rocks/dirt... bla bla bla....

Also.. that was a civic.. speed6 is designed for a lot harder corners and such... not sure how well coilovers would hold up to that..[/b]

i hope u are speakin' in behalf of Coilover SLEEVE (aka Ground control, skunk2, D2, etc)....those are the crap...
but real coilovers, (dampers) are actually funtional~

 

Ground Control coilover sleeves are great. It's a shame they don't make a set for the '6. You pick your own spring rates, so if you hate them, it's your own stupid fault. Match them up with good dampers (like Koni's), though, and you've got yourself a full coilover package for less money. And since Koni's are great, the package will outperform just about everything else out there under two grand.

 

See.. thats my exact point... "most" people... slap on a 300-600 dollar set of coils... which just come with the spring and adjustmet bracket thingy.... This = Bad.. if you dump the 1000-2000 on the full set of dampers... springs.. everything.... and can adjust the camber properly.... coils are just fine....

I was just trying to make sure the guy knew that he'd be dropping over a 1000 dollars on doing this properly....

 

I am really not trying to be a dick...buy you are spouting some BS. So if I buy coilovers i should replace my shocks too? Um NO. As far as springs go...a spring matched to the stock damper will effectivly be able to lower the car without any additional parts (except possibly a new or modified bump stop). What you are saying about camber is true in some cases; however, I would do a little more research on basic suspension geometry. Some setups have ways of maintaining camber regardless of ride height (within reason). A good set of coilovers or a good set of matched springs and dampers can have equaly good performance on a daily driver. If I didn't want to take the time to match spring rates with dampers I would invariably go with coilovers. As far as suspension on the MS6...It's actually really not to bad stock...yeah we have some understeer but it is easily driven around...this car is better planted than either my 350z or IS300 were (stock). When I work my way down to the suspension im going to go with the koni's or the bilsteins and the RPM k-spec spring and probably a rear sway bar; that is really all the MS6 needs. Adding weight via extra bracing that will rarely if ever be needed on the street (and probably not on the track either) is a last resort for serious racers (or moders).

Before anyone makes cracks about Daddy and my cars in HS...I couldn't afford a car in high school...and it wasn't until after my second tour in Iraq that I could afford a 350Z. I know what I know about cars because I spent years drooling over what I couldn't, at the time, afford.

Like I said Im not trying to be a dick but you are spouting stuff as fact that simply isn't true.

 

See.. thats my exact point... "most" people... slap on a 300-600 dollar set of coils... which just come with the spring and adjustmet bracket thingy.... This = Bad.. if you dump the 1000-2000 on the full set of dampers... springs.. everything.... and can adjust the camber properly.... coils are just fine....

I was just trying to make sure the guy knew that he'd be dropping over a 1000 dollars on doing this properly....[/b]

Oh I'm fully aware I'll be dumping over $1000. Up here in Canada, it'll be like $1600 I'm sure.