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Picked up mine from RPM just now with 5% off coupon and free shipping.
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Your going to enjoy it...

When you are installing, pick up a 4 bolt rear diff bracket (Cullen at StreetUnit should have one, or try a local dealer).... its the perfect time to install it and will prevent all of the axle/diff problems everyone is having....
 

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Just got a Whiteline sent to me for Christmas from my buddy....only problem is, is that it is about 10 degrees out, my garage is going to be plenty cold when I go to put this on!

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dont worry, youll be plenty warm after all the muscle youll have to put into installing this thing. and your hands are better off numb because youll get plenty of cuts and bruises. the idea is to keep your calm thru all of this.

happy installing! :D
 

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dont worry, youll be plenty warm after all the muscle youll have to put into installing this thing. and your hands are better off numb because youll get plenty of cuts and bruises. the idea is to keep your calm thru all of this.

happy installing! :D
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Yeah....after looking into this a while back, I figured it was gonna be a blast.....about as much fun as swapping out my rack and pinion and rag joint on my SVO.

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Yeah....after looking into this a while back, I figured it was gonna be a blast.....about as much fun as swapping out my rack and pinion and rag joint on my SVO.

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if u need tips, you should PM atc5. i wont be around this weekend or next week, but atc5 helped me install the bar and hes familiar with all the tips and tricks needed in cases you run into trouble.
 

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if u need tips, you should PM atc5. i wont be around this weekend or next week, but atc5 helped me install the bar and hes familiar with all the tips and tricks needed in cases you run into trouble.
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PM? Didn't you volunteer to come over and help me? I pretty sure you said you were gonna stop over.

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Now that you have had the bar installed for a few weeks and probably have a few miles on it, I was wondering how well the teflon wrapped bushings were holding up. Have you looked at them to see if it is unraveling or wearing strangely. Have you experienced any squeaking?
 

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PM? Didn't you volunteer to come over and help me? I pretty sure you said you were gonna stop over.

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yeah ill be there. but just a heads up, i do have a track record of being on asian time or not showing up at all in some cases. ;)


Now that you have had the bar installed for a few weeks and probably have a few miles on it, I was wondering how well the teflon wrapped bushings were holding up. Have you looked at them to see if it is unraveling or wearing strangely. Have you experienced any squeaking?
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no squeeking yet and i havent taken a look to see if it started to unravel or anything. if there are problems, its a very easy fix.
 

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Just installed mine tonight and the most difficult part was trying to clear the top/front edge of the differential. Sorry did not take any pics, just wanted to finish the job. :(

Those who have done the job know what I am talking about, the middle of the sway bar will get caught there and make very difficult to get the ends of the sway bars over the lower control arms. I also disconnected both rear mufflers to allow the exhaust to hang out of the way.

TIP: what I did was loosen/remove one side lower control arm bolt that connects near the outer most edge of the arm just below the shock mount. This allowed the lower control arm to swing even lower to get one side of the sway bar out of the way of the control arm. Otherwise, it would have been a royal pain to try and move the bar out. Remember to support the lower control arm beneath the spring cup as there will be some tension from the spring. :yesnod:

Of course the sway bar WILL get scratched to all hell, so if you are hoping to have a prestine looking sway bar, you better unbolt the differential both from the front / rear mounts. :huh:

Something I have not read noted, when pulling down the front of the differental, the reason it does not tilt more is the rear cover will be up against the rear subframe just behind the cover. I made a small dent on mine from the pulling. So either remember to pad this contact point. :tear:

I work for a Lexus dealership, so I had access to the lifts, I commend all of you who have done it on the ground. I know it could be done, but there are definitely some space/working room challenges.

Overall, from start to finish about 1 hour 20 minutes. I had two other master techs helping me as well. ;)

Driving impressions: I left mine on the "soft" setting as I did not want to have any oversteer conditions (like I did on my Audi A4). The straight line ride was the same as stock, with a few small changes to a reduced rolling feel I used to get when driving over bumps/dips in the road.

When turning, there comes the magic of proper tuning. The rear has definitely reduced its roll causing the car to feel slightly tipsy stock. Turn in is slightly sharper and definitely approaching neutral. I feel when the car is finally lowered (RPM springs, hint, hint) The body lean will be addressed and still have a streetable ride. We shall see in a few months.

Would I recommend this rear sway bar upgrade to any MS6 owner, even if you have no plans to lower the car as it has changed its character to how it should have come from the factory. So far the best money spent on the suspension.
 

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Just had mine installed and car aligned due to bar/AutoEXE springs being installed. What a difference. I swear I can launch harder and it sticks better, although it may have been the camber has been off since I installed the wheels and springs at the same time.
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Just had mine installed and car aligned due to bar/AutoEXE springs being installed. What a difference. I swear I can launch harder and it sticks better, although it may have been the camber has been off since I installed the wheels and springs at the same time.
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Whats the difference in size from the stock bar? They look very similar is size from that first picture.
 

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The stock swaybar is 23mm non-adjustable. The Whiteline is 24mm adjustable.

Why such a small change? Due to the tight fitment, this was as thick as Whiteline could make it. So, the added adjustability allows you to dial in a little extra stiffness as well.
 

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the bar is both thicker and heavier. the adjustability adds some extra stiffness. it makes a world of difference even tho it's only +1mm. its one of my favorite mods thus far.[/b]
Not doubting that is will make some difference, but +1MM isn't exactly staggering. And heavier isn't a good thing either. Ideally the bar would be hollow and lighter, yet larger and more rigid. I just dont see how +1MM increase in size is going to make such a noticeable difference, especially since you are not also changing the front bar and I am sure Mazdaspeed matched the front/rear bars for a reason. It says it is adjustable, so do you have it set on "full stiff"? Perhaps the attachement point makes the bigger difference.
 

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Tight space and tight bends limited whiteline's bar to +1. Roughed out some numbers based on pics. 7" oem lever, 6.5 and 7.25 WL levers.

soft setting, 11% stiffer than oem
stiff setting, 38% stiffer than oem
 

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Not doubting that is will make some difference, but +1MM isn't exactly staggering. And heavier isn't a good thing either. Ideally the bar would be hollow and lighter, yet larger and more rigid. I just dont see how +1MM increase in size is going to make such a noticeable difference, especially since you are not also changing the front bar and I am sure Mazdaspeed matched the front/rear bars for a reason. It says it is adjustable, so do you have it set on "full stiff"? Perhaps the attachement point makes the bigger difference.[/b]
yes its on full stiff. whiteline says it acts like a 26mm bar. a solid bar has more stiffness than a hollow bar of the same outside diamater. go here:

http://forum.mazda6club.com/index.php?s=&a...st&p=800066
 

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yes its on full stiff. whiteline says it acts like a 26mm bar. a solid bar has more stiffness than a hollow bar of the same outside diamater. go here:

http://forum.mazda6club.com/index.php?s=&a...st&p=800066[/b]
I believe that even +1 mm and the fact that you can adjust it makes it worth it. I just got mine delivered today and I will have the dealer install it this friday.
Let's see how it performs on the track this Sunday.
 

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So, how did it perform on the track last Sunday? Or did you get rained out?
 
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