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I've been showing my new ride off to friends and family over the holiday weekend. They are all insanely jealous of course.

It seems nobody could resit pawing the padded dash for some reason and now it has tons of finger and hand prints all over it. I absolutely HATE the smell and look of Armour All. What are y'all using to clean/treat the interior? My prior vehicles have had plastic dash material and a damp rag was plenty, but I don't want to screw up my brand new (and awesome) interior.
 

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Well it's a good thing you hate the smell of Armor All - that stuff will ruin your interior over time.

Personally, I'm a sucker for anything Griot's Garage, and I've used both their "Interior Cleaner" and "Leather Cleaner" on the soft-touch with no issues.

https://www.amazon.com/Griots-Garage-11104SP-Interior-Cleaner/dp/B00J5CVOZY
https://www.amazon.com/Griots-Garage-10994-Leather-Spray/dp/B00IUE5S5U

Best part about their leather cleaners? They are "new car" scented and it is wonderful.

Also, take a peek at these threads found in my 3rd gen 1 stop shop thread:
http://forum.mazda6club.com/models-trim/298281-3rd-gen-detailing-car-care-thread.html
http://forum.mazda6club.com/show-shine/260128-how-do-you-clean-soft-touch-dash.html
 

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Thanks guys. I don't know how I missed those threads. User error is fairly common in my case.

I guess I didn't fully realize it but the dash IS covered in leather. I've used the rather old school Lexol products for a while but may have to give some of these newer options a try soon. These fingerprints are making me crazy
 

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The padded dash on the GT is not leather, it is vinyl and a magnet for dust and finger prints. The only leather in your car are the seat trims,steering and the strip that runs in the middle of the dash. Like most modern cars, the leather in our mazdas is treated, so using leather conditioner does nothing to it. You cannot go wrong with Griots interior cleaners or Meguiars interior cleaners. If you want something from a more specialized towards leather, then Lexol is the go to favorite of most detailers. I personally use 303 aerospray for rubber,vinyl and leather. I am yet to find another all in one cleaner that maintains the original color, cleans and finishes with a matt shine on all surfaces like the 303 does.
 

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I've used Black Magic Pro-Shine interior protectant for over 20yrs. Does a great job. Also works good on any black cladding for the exterior, as well as seals.

Armor-All is garbage IMO. Whatever you choose, make sure there are no water based ingredients. That is Armor-All's downfall.
I have no experience with Armor-All, but water based ingredients do not deteriorate the finish. Majority of the leather cleaners and interior protectants including Lexol, Meguiars, Griots, ChemicalGuys, 303 are all water based. Infact, on heavily treated leathers like ours, products like 'leatherique' or 'leather-honey' will do more harm than good as they are supposed to be used on real,untreated leather. Using them on our interiors will be a nightmare to wipe them off and will be a greasy muck ! Even a 200k Mercedes S600 comes with treated leather these days, and all you need to do is keep them clean and protected from UV. Spray on your favorite interior cleaner ( Meguiars/Griots/303 etc) on a microfiber towel, and wipe down the interiors every few weeks, that's all.
 

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The padded dash on the GT is not leather, it is vinyl and a magnet for dust and finger prints. The only leather in your car are the seat trims,steering and the strip that runs in the middle of the dash. Like most modern cars, the leather in our mazdas is treated, so using leather conditioner does nothing to it. You cannot go wrong with Griots interior cleaners or Meguiars interior cleaners. If you want something from a more specialized towards leather, then Lexol is the go to favorite of most detailers. I personally use 303 aerospray for rubber,vinyl and leather. I am yet to find another all in one cleaner that maintains the original color, cleans and finishes with a matt shine on all surfaces like the 303 does.
Thanks for the clarification MilR. I'm looking to keep the matt shine characteristics and just keep the interior clean and as free from these maddening fingerprints as I can. The all in one type of cleaner is what I am looking for so I may give the 303 a try.
 

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I have no experience with Armor-All, but water based ingredients do not deteriorate the finish. Majority of the leather cleaners and interior protectants including Lexol, Meguiars, Griots, ChemicalGuys, 303 are all water based. Infact, on heavily treated leathers like ours, products like 'leatherique' or 'leather-honey' will do more harm than good as they are supposed to be used on real,untreated leather. Using them on our interiors will be a nightmare to wipe them off and will be a greasy muck ! Even a 200k Mercedes S600 comes with treated leather these days, and all you need to do is keep them clean and protected from UV. Spray on your favorite interior cleaner ( Meguiars/Griots/303 etc) on a microfiber towel, and wipe down the interiors every few weeks, that's all.
I'll clarify 2 things. One, Black Magic has no water based ingredients, which is why it's usually my go to. Two, I don't use it on my leather/pleather/whatever they name it. For that, I've been using Lexol. I use the Black Magic for the dash, door trim (other than the pleather behind the door handle) and any other exposed vinyl/plastic.
 

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Thanks for the clarification MilR. I'm looking to keep the matt shine characteristics and just keep the interior clean and as free from these maddening fingerprints as I can. The all in one type of cleaner is what I am looking for so I may give the 303 a try.

My go to for years is meguiars interior detailed. It doesn't offer any protection, it just cleans to keep the original finish intact. There is no oily residue or shine. I've used this stuff for years but I also don't park outside for long period of time. My car is garage kept at work and at home. If I parked outside often I'd use something with more UV protection.


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My go to for years is meguiars interior detailed. It doesn't offer any protection, it just cleans to keep the original finish intact. There is no oily residue or shine. I've used this stuff for years but I also don't park outside for long period of time. My car is garage kept at work and at home. If I parked outside often I'd use something with more UV protection.


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The UV protection is a good point. I garage at home, but don't have that ability at work.
 

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I'll clarify 2 things. One, Black Magic has no water based ingredients, which is why it's usually my go to. Two, I don't use it on my leather/pleather/whatever they name it. For that, I've been using Lexol. I use the Black Magic for the dash, door trim (other than the pleather behind the door handle) and any other exposed vinyl/plastic.
Lexol makes excellent cleaner and conditioner, the later is what i call a "feel good" product for treated leathers like in our cars. With anything silicone/animal fat based cleaner/conditioners, you are putting it on a surface that is precisely designed to repel body and chemical fluids. That's why most interior cleaners are water based so it can clean and easily hydrate the tough leather. The lexol cleaners have the following ingredients : Glycerin, Detergents, Water, Preservative., and the Lexol conditioner has the following ingredients : Sulfated Fatty Alcohols, Sulfated Neatsfoot Oil, Tall Fatty Acids, Water, Preservative.
As long as a cleaner is ph neutral, it does no harm to leather/vinyl or rubber.
 

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I use Griot's Leather Care Spray for the seats and Wolfgang's Vinyl & Rubber Protectant for the dash, door trim and the "leatherette" seat bolsters.

The Wolfgang product is water-based but is marketed as providing UV protection. You can't believe everything you read, but FWIW, Autogeek claims that it is petroleum distillates in other products that cause drying and cracking. I would appreciate MilR's thoughts on this statement (or from any of the other forum experts).

Wolfgang products are pricey ($25) but I only buy from Autogeek when they run 20-25% discounts.


Wolfgang Vinyl & Rubber Protectant penetrates beyond the surface to maintain pliability and integrity of vinyl and rubber surfaces!
 

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So the Griot's leather care does not leave a residue? I stopped using the Lexol conditioner because I felt it did leave the seats with a film, at least until it evaporated or absorbed. Still need to do some research on the dash/vinyl surfaces as some amount of UV protection (perceived or actual) is attractive to me.
 

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So the Griot's leather care does not leave a residue? I stopped using the Lexol conditioner because I felt it did leave the seats with a film, at least until it evaporated or absorbed. Still need to do some research on the dash/vinyl surfaces as some amount of UV protection (perceived or actual) is attractive to me.
Not that I've noticed. You need to go with the spray, not the lotion.

I have only recently began using Griot's based on Byakuya's recommendation.
 

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I use Griot's Leather Care Spray for the seats and Wolfgang's Vinyl & Rubber Protectant for the dash, door trim and the "leatherette" seat bolsters.

The Wolfgang product is water-based but is marketed as providing UV protection. You can't believe everything you read, but FWIW, Autogeek claims that it is petroleum distillates in other products that cause drying and cracking (hey, it sounded good to me). I would appreciate MilR's thoughts on this statement (or from any of the other forum experts).

Wolfgang products are pricey ($25) but I only buy from Autogeek when they run 20-25% discounts.


Wolfgang Vinyl & Rubber Protectant penetrates beyond the surface to maintain pliability and integrity of vinyl and rubber surfaces!
Wolfgang detailing products is another high quality lineup by Palm beach motoring group(PBMG) that owns and sponsors autogeek. I dont know if they manufacture it in-house, but i know Wolfgang,Pinnacle,DP and other products under PBMG umbrella are some of the best in business. Mike Phillips, one of the partners in PBMG is among the most respected names in detailing business, and he vouches by Wolfgang/DP/Blackfire line of detailing products.

The problem with some of the silicone based cleaners is alkaline , so it is not ph neutral to leather. This overtime will result in hardening the leather and eventual crack. You want a ph neutral product and with good penetration ability, hence most of well known interior cleaners/conditioners are neutral, water based products.

In cars like ours with mostly vinyl and some heavily treated leather, the goal is to keep the surface clean, which means wiping everything down with a quality interior cleaner /protector every few weeks. I personally use 303 protectant on leather and vinyl. It is a water based product with a lengthy history of UV protection in aerospace and marine world. I spray it on a microfiber towel, and wipe everything down once every 3-4 weeks. It leaves a matte finish, which after a couple of days turns in a natural looking finish.

Just like craft beers, manufacturing detailing products in the age of internet has become a huge, profitable business. Most if not all the labels you see on autopia or autogeek are top shelf in this heavily competitive business.
 

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lol at hating on Armor All, mostly they gained a bad reputation from some of their products from many years ago, specifically the UV shiny black product, almost as if it is a myth now and people just believe all their products are crap just because of the name.

Look at the ingredients from armor all purpose interior cleaner and your so wonderful lexol or meguiar interior cleaner, same ingredients basically. They all cost around the same price. Bottom line, you are still getting ripped off from all of them. They are overpriced for what they have inside and the amount of product. They are all water based. They all have some form of "scent". They will all affect the interior overtime.

You are biased towards Lexol and Meguiar only because of marketing and word of mouth. Meguiar has many crappy products just as much as Armor all.
 

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lol at hating on Armor All, mostly they gained a bad reputation from some of their products from many years ago, specifically the UV shiny black product, almost as if it is a myth now and people just believe all their products are crap just because of the name.

Look at the ingredients from armor all purpose interior cleaner and your so wonderful lexol or meguiar interior cleaner, same ingredients basically. They all cost around the same price. Bottom line, you are still getting ripped off from all of them. They are overpriced for what they have inside and the amount of product. They are all water based. They all have some form of "scent". They will all affect the interior overtime.

You are biased towards Lexol and Meguiar only because of marketing and word of mouth. Meguiar has many crappy products just as much as Armor all.
Or you learn things from personal experience or reading about MANY others who have had issues with cheap Armor All.
@neenwht6 I hope you're enjoying the Griots - I love the leather cleaner's smell and how it lasts for a week easily.
@rmhpmi I haven't had any issues with residue or sheen at all with Griots, which is why i keep going to them. I'm sure Meguire's or Mother's are perfectly fine - I just know Griots takes the shine/grease off my steering wheel and makes it feel new again, so I keep using it :)
 

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@rmhpmi I haven't had any issues with residue or sheen at all with Griots, which is why i keep going to them. I'm sure Meguire's or Mother's are perfectly fine - I just know Griots takes the shine/grease off my steering wheel and makes it feel new again, so I keep using it :)[/QUOTE]


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I'm sure there's better stuff out there, but I'm a Meguiar's guy.
 
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