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I've read threads forwards and back for the last couple months trying to make up my mind on new wheels and tires and the only thing I don't understand is what the best type of tire for my climate would be.

Portland never really snows, if it does its maybe once or twice a year, so no need for snow traction. I've got an Xterra to get up to Hood for boarding days.

Portland gets alot of rain. Wet traction is pretty important.

Average temperatures in the winter are around 40 degrees but we do get sustained periods of 30 degree weather, usually not more than three or four days in a row then back up to 40-50 degree weather.

So with that being said, All-seasons are not the best for rain which happens alot. Summer tires are not good in temperatures below 40 degrees. I can't see having two sets of tires because winter tires don't make any sense for city driving in Portland.

How bad do summer tires perform in less than 40 degree weather? Is it equivilant to driving on ice or does it just mean I can't take corners like I'm at an auto-X event. If summer tires are really bad I guess I will have to go with all-seasons but that just sucks after reading they are probably the worst tire for wet weather driving. My head is spinning.... please shed some light.
 

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Well, I am placing my order later today. Looks like the Proxes since no one has any input on the summer tires. Seems like the people that have the Proxes like them so what the hell. I am not ordering till this afternoon so if someone has experience driving on summer tires in <40 degree weather I would like to know how bad it was or wasn't. My summer tire option I am looking at is a set of Falken FK-452's. Either tire will be 225-45-18.
 

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Summer tires all the way, man. As far as cold weather goes, Portland is abou the same as Dallas, actually. We get a few weeks a year where it gets in the 30s, maybe a few days where it's in the 20's, but none of it is bad enough to warrant something other than a Summer tire. There's a grip difference, especally when you first start before the tires warm up, but it's nothing that's detrimental to safety or anything like that.

Even in the ice/snow they're usable. You can't go mountain-climbing with them on, but for daily driving they can get around quite well in the ice or snow as long as you're a bit more careful than you'd need to be with snow tires.
 

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I think that Sigma is right on the money here. I was going back and forth myself and took the summer tire plunge. I will never look back. They are so much better. It never snows in Sac, but we do end up with freezing temps for three or four days at a time during the winter, then generally it's in the low 50's high 40's with periods of heavy rain. The summer tires are amazing in the rain.
 

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Hey porkchop, let me/us know how the proxes work for you. but i think the comments by sigma and sacremento6 have me convinced that a summer tire would be the way to go when I switch next year. glad you brought this topic up.
 

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Well I have not placed the order yet so I guess its the Falken FK-452's FTW. Kyowa KR206 wheels in the 18" hyperblack flavor.

Ordering now.

Thanks for the input fellas.
 

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Portland gets alot of rain. Wet traction is pretty important.

Average temperatures in the winter are around 40 degrees but we do get sustained periods of 30 degree weather, usually not more than three or four days in a row then back up to 40-50 degree weather.

So with that being said, All-seasons are not the best for rain which happens alot. Summer tires are not good in temperatures below 40 degrees. I can't see having two sets of tires because winter tires don't make any sense for city driving in Portland.

How bad do summer tires perform in less than 40 degree weather?
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Not surprisingly, not all summer tires are alike over a wide range of temperatures. Looking only at the Yokohama line, the ADVAN Neova tires are terrible at colder temperatures, but the ADVAN Sports are among the best. (The two ADVANs use radically different trea compounds.) I am running ADVAN Sports in the rear positions on my '6 wagon.

At temperatures in the 30s when there is no snow, most summer tires will outperfrom (specifically, out-brake) most all season tires in the wet. There are exceptions, of course, like the ADVAN Neovas or the BFG K/D, and the entire Nokian line, including both summer (NR-V and NR-Z and NR-Y) and all season (WR) tires, are designed for the transitionsl temperatures in the 30s and 40s.

I'm in Portland myself, and have been away for a couple weeks, or would have responded sooner. Had I done so, and knowing your preference for 225/45R18s, I probably would have suggested that you look at the Continental SportContact 3, which is a terrific all-around tire.
 

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It doesn't look like any one on the forum has the 452's yet so I will let you all know what I think. They ship out tomorrow so hopefully I will have them tuesday. The guys at perfomance plus called me and said since the car was going to be lowered it might rub since this tire is about a 1/4" taller than the stock 205/60/16 Michellins but judging by how much room there is height wise I think it should be ok even with the mazdaspeed springs.
 

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They're here......




Now I just need my springs from Sabrina and then I will put on the car :) .
 

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Sac6 - Lapis Blue

Hyperblack is not as dark as I was thinking but they will still look kick ass. I wish they were hyper all the way out to the rubber tho. Seems like you can't find wheels without poliched lips anymore, makes them look smaller than they really are. They sent a set of the cheap spline tuner type lug nuts which use a universal key that anyone can get so I think I need to buy some good lug nuts. Any suggestions?

The tires have a good deep tread pattern and look like they should perform well in the wet. Can't wait to get them on and give a review. No shortage of rain to try them out on. Its been a pretty wet year hear in Portland.
 
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