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hi, we currently have a '98 volkswagen passat and want to get into something new. the mazda 6 is really sharp looking, and seems very popular.
My concern is reliability. My daily commuter is a 96 civic with 360,000 incident free KM on it. I've always owned honda, and always had exemplary reliability out of them. Nothing more than scheduled maintenance, even at ultra high mileage.
Can I expect this kind of reliability out of the mazda 6? The volkswagen has been a let down in the reliability department.
I am looking for something fun and reliable for my wife to use as her daily. She puts on maybe 20,000km/year, much less than I do, so we will probably lease.

Also, on mazda's website they have two warranty options, can someone explain the pros and cons of both?
 

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I came out of a '98 Civic with only 98K miles on it, but have had other Hondas over the years. I had some reservations about this car more due to the Ford influx than the Mazda engineering. I will say, though, that the 6 should easily exceed the typical reliability record of a Passat. That said, if you like "driving" a car, then you will like the 6.

As far as the warranty issue, I assume you are talking about extended warranties. It's not a bad idea if you are not in the car business (i.e. you don't have access to cheap repairs) and you just want greater peace of mind over the long haul. Just remember that you can negotiate the price on that, too. If you do the extended warranty, make sure it is an exclusionary policy - in other words it has a list of things that are not covered. Those policies are much more comprehensive. Also, make sure to keep a low deductible and make sure that the deductible is per visit and not per actual repair.

For the most part, I have really loved my car! I hope to have it a few more years yet. Good luck on getting yours!!!
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i went through the same considerations as you except i should add that i wanted a fun to drive car as well as having good looks and acceptable reliablity (i guess acceptable to me is very reliable). my concern was consumer reports which rated the 6 average or slightly below depending on what body style and engine you went with (4 bangers are good, wagons of all engine types were good). but then i started looking at what the differece of what consumer reports considered average and above average...the difference is miniscule!! on a percentage basis (this was a while ago, so my memory may be a bit off, but you'll get the idea) it was less than a few percentage points on the 3 year old models when comparing the 6 vs the accord. and since i could get the 6 for much lower price wise than a accord or legacy and it was the best in terms of steering feel and braking while having great driving dynamics and a good engine (i got the v-6), it was an easy choice.

the longer i have the car, the more i like it. it's a blast to drive, but civil enough where if i need to take customers or other reps around in it, i can. also, the hatch option has been very handy for hauling things that i could never get in a sedan (although the 6's trunk is HUGE).

so if you like how it drives and find that it's in your price range, i would definately recommend it.
 

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I agree with Crash11

In my experience, I doubt that Consumer Reports could recognize the Best in the World, if it bit them on the butt.
Their recommendations have led me astray as often as not. (Back when I used to give any credance to their opinion)

I did my own research three years ago when I bought my first M6, a 2003 6S.
I thought it was the most car for the money then, and nothing has happened to change that in 61K (s)miles.

The 2003 worked out so well, I recently added a 2006 MS6 to the family.
 

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there's always the chance that consumer reports gets a really good or really poor example of a vehicle/product/whatever.
I realize that coming to a mazda6 forum to ask about the car probably isn't the most accurate thing to do, since you're probably a bunch of mazda6 fanboys, but it's a start :)

thanks for the info so far
 

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Chris,

Any ideas as to what model 6 yet? Sedan? Hatch? 4-cyl or V6?
 

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got our eyes on a hatch (I really miss being able to haul big stuff around!)

haven't decided on 4 vs. 6 yt. I'm hoping we'll have time to go actually drive one next week sometime!
 

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there's always the chance that consumer reports gets a really good or really poor example of a vehicle/product/whatever.
I realize that coming to a mazda6 forum to ask about the car probably isn't the most accurate thing to do, since you're probably a bunch of mazda6 fanboys, but it's a start :)

thanks for the info so far
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I'll try to be as objective and honest as I can here.......

I just bought a 2006 6i about 2 months ago. While I was shopping and doing my research I considered these other vehicles:

Used Focus
New Focus
Used Taurus
New Taurus
New Fusion
New Mazda3i
Used Grand Am
Used Cavalier

What ended up happening was I convinced myself that buying a new car wasn't really anymore costly than a used one when you figure that you'll have the new car about twice as long, but you'll pay twice as much. With that in mind, I narrowed it down to a new Mazda3, Focus, or a Taurus. Well the Taurus, while extremely reliable and practicle, was too expensive and the fuel economy was just ok. I found out the Fusion is built in Mexico, so that was out. It took nothing more than LOOKING at a mazda3 to decide I wasn't getting a Focus. However, after learning more from the dealer, I realized a mazda6 similarly equipped was cheaper than a 3 after rebates and the fuel economy was good cause they offered a 4 cylinder. No bs, it's a great car, even a 4 cylinder with an automatic. It's plenty quick, good on fuel, has a decent amount of room, and not to mention looks pretty sweet. Now it's basically my girlfriend's car, and I'm glad I got it cause it's very safe for her, and she's in love with it.

I can conclude that it all comes down to values. Do you value safety, reliability, price, appearance, lack of headaches, etc etc etc? This is just one man's opinion, but I think the Mazda6 is geared towards people who care about appearance and price more than the rest. All new cars are pretty damn safe, pretty damn reliable, and you get a warranty so there's no headaches. That's why I say Consumer Reports is full of crap. They rate pretty much the entire Honda and Toyota fleet as perfect because their safety and reliability are about 3% higher/better than the rest.

Figure out what you value most. Another last tidbit I'll add though, gas ain't getting any cheaper.
 

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So what have you decided... I have to say that I went from a civic to a 03 6 to a Tribute back the MS6. what can I say I ove my mazdas.. Can't beat them. Good value, good service, good reliability (knock on wood.)
 

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So what have you decided... I have to say that I went from a civic to a 03 6 to a Tribute back the MS6. what can I say I ove my mazdas.. Can't beat them. Good value, good service, good reliability (knock on wood.)
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well I'm happy to say that we signed the papers on an island blue mazda 6 sport gt4i today. It's being shipped in, as they did not have the color we wanted. I can't wait to get it! thanks for all the help and advise, guys/girls!
 

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If your looking to sped around 20-25k on a car you would be better off with a GTI or GLI. The GTI pulls a 6.3 0-60 with manual and even faster with the incredible DSG(i speak from knowing) and the GLI is only a tad bit slower and both are better cars OVERALL. If you are looking for styling, i would go for the 6, if your not...then i would take the people's car. Oh yeah, and both cars get 32mpg highway with the 2.0T engine and both are better handling and faster.
 

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get an '05 if possible...those are the best 6es yet! :D
 

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well I'm happy to say that we signed the papers on an island blue mazda 6 sport gt4i today. It's being shipped in, as they did not have the color we wanted. I can't wait to get it! thanks for all the help and advise, guys/girls!
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congrats! you won't be disappointed. The 6 is the best mid-sizer out there and the hatch will gobble up anything you throw at it. Love that island blue colour, saw one in the showroom with tan leather......yummy.
 

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Just hope u get a good one! While we have always owned mazda's and honda's, I have never had so many reliability issues with a new car to be honest. I have owned the car 1.5 years, only put 14,000 miles on it and have had it to the dealer for a new clutch, new brakes, and new seats. Trust me when I tell you, I have never once driven this car hard and it is ONLY used to drive from school back to st. louis (190 miles one way). I love the looks and the room, but thank god for the warranty or I would be out $1,000+ now with only driving the car 14,000 miles. Some others experience these problems too, some don't. Best of luck with your blue 6 :drive:
 

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If your looking to sped around 20-25k on a car you would be better off with a GTI or GLI. The GTI pulls a 6.3 0-60 with manual and even faster with the incredible DSG(i speak from knowing) and the GLI is only a tad bit slower and both are better cars OVERALL. If you are looking for styling, i would go for the 6, if your not...then i would take the people's car. Oh yeah, and both cars get 32mpg highway with the 2.0T engine and both are better handling and faster.
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2 vw dealerships and an independent vw specialist telling us that they couldn't figure out how to fix our car (98 passat 1.8t that wouldn't start) has pretty much ensured that we won't be buying another volkswagen. I would've loved to have driven the car full speed through the showroom glass at the dealership, but you know... no starting. :swearin:

the passat forum I'm a member at, it seems like every 5th post is someone whose car won't start for any one of a number of reasons
 

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I think taht the previous Passat was during all the VW quality problems with the mexican parts. The current GTI/GLI have no mexican parts(suposedly) which were the suposed cause of the quality issuses.
 

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I think taht the previous Passat was during all the VW quality problems with the mexican parts. The current GTI/GLI have no mexican parts(suposedly) which were the suposed cause of the quality issuses.
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oh that's all fine and good. I have no problem paying to get a vehicle fixed. However, my problem lay in that they were very willing to charge us several thousand $ to tell us they could not fix it. It's all moot point now anyway. vw out, mazda in.
 
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