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Do they make a Short Ram Intake for the MS6 and if so would you still be able to hear the turbo/BOV like you do with a cold air?
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I currently have an SRI, but previously had a CAI for awhile. The CAI is in fact louder, but only slightly (which I prefer). They were nearly identical on the dyno. The CAI hydrolock issue scares me. My SRI came from TurboXs. It is not listed on there website, but I am pretty sure they can make one for you, since it utilizes the stock maf housing. I believe I have read about other SRI as well for the Speed6. Maybe check with discount parts warehouse.
 

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Thanks for the link
 

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Wooo.

One of my friends just hydrolocked his supra with a CAI so I'm not looking for something thats less likely.

Can you still hydrolock with a SRI?[/b]
Nope ^_^ but you better get replacement TMIC for that heatsoak you are gonna get
 

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Wooo.

One of my friends just hydrolocked his supra with a CAI so I'm not looking for something thats less likely.

Can you still hydrolock with a SRI?[/b]
You can hydrolock your engine with any type of intake, even the stock one. The only difference between intakes in that regard is how deep of a puddle you can drive through before it happens.
 

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You can hydrolock your engine with any type of intake, even the stock one. The only difference between intakes in that regard is how deep of a puddle you can drive through before it happens.[/b]
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What he said. Hell, I recall a thread waaaay back where a fully stock 6 hydrolocked. The risk is never zero percent.
 

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No it's not the same. The SRI sits much further up in the engine compartment than the CAI does.
 

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The best defense against hydro lock is common sense.... I won't hydrolock my car regardless of the intake on it because I am not stupid...
 

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The problem I have with the CAI kits is that not even driving through any puddles or standing water, you are already getting the filter wet just driving through rain. while you may not get hydrolock from this, the fact the filter gets wet just driving around in the rain strikes me as a problem that might cause other problem down the line over time.

If it wasn't for this, and the extra noise, I might consider one...
 

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The problem I have with the CAI kits is that not even driving through any puddles or standing water, you are already getting the filter wet just driving through rain. while you may not get hydrolock from this, the fact the filter gets wet just driving around in the rain strikes me as a problem that might cause other problem down the line over time.

If it wasn't for this, and the extra noise, I might consider one...[/b]
Nope. Water on the filter is fine; submersion causes the water to be sucked up instead of the air. When small amounts of water get sucked up with the air, evaporation will occur and the water will never reach the engine.
 

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Good God... I took my Civic with CAI... through a lake and to the moon and back with NO issues at all... I mean jesus... You have to be really dumb... or VERY unlucky to do that... If you hit a huge puddle on the freeway somehow... I can understand... but if you're driving on any other street.. GO AROUND... or something... I mean i'd need to dip my speed6 at least a FOOT under water... thats a deep fuckin puddle... to get the intake close enough to cause damage....

All that being said... Stock intake is better than short-ram i'm almost 100% sure... The stock intake takes advantage of the wheel well vents same as CAI's do... So rather than suck in all the hot air from the engine bay... just stick with stock if you live somewhere on a lake or something...

I don't mean to call anyone stupid... but i've known countless people..driven with countless people including myself... with CAI's and throught the rain and small puddles... never came close to having problems... Watch some of the vidoes on CAI's and water.. and the prevention items they have...

I much prefer the improvement of my CAI over stock/short ram... and am willing to live with the fact that I can't take my car swimming... Then again I would never want to do that in the first place.. if you dip it deep enough to suck up water and kill the engine... then you're dipping your oil pan... tranny... axels.. everything else into water.. which isn't the greatest idea....

Hell.. I think you're more likely to crack an exhaust / manifold from dunking it into a puddle (hot metal + very rapid cooling = bad)... and the exhaust is a LOT closer to the ground than the intake =)
 

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Nope. Water on the filter is fine; submersion causes the water to be sucked up instead of the air. When small amounts of water get sucked up with the air, evaporation will occur and the water will never reach the engine.[/b]
While that sounds reasonable, there really is no way to tell what the long term effects of the filter getting wet on a CAI car since the cars are so new. I plan on keeping my car for at least 10 years, and hopefully longer, so I'm a bit hesitant to try and find that out the hard way myself..

Good God... I took my Civic with CAI... through a lake and to the moon and back with NO issues at all... I mean jesus... You have to be really dumb... or VERY unlucky to do that... If you hit a huge puddle on the freeway somehow... I can understand... but if you're driving on any other street.. GO AROUND... or something... I mean i'd need to dip my speed6 at least a FOOT under water... thats a deep fuckin puddle... to get the intake close enough to cause damage....[/b]
Did you Civic pull air through vents in the top of the wheel well? Does your filter get wet when you are just driving around in the rain?
 

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This car isn't the first one to ever use a CAI. Yes, we do know long term effects of a CAI. We also know that when water evaporates from a liquid to a non-harmful gas, it cannot possibly cause hydrolock. Normal driving will not yield hydrolock. If you are driving around in very deep flooding water, it's possible.
 

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This car isn't the first one to ever use a CAI. Yes, we do know long term effects of a CAI. We also know that when water evaporates from a liquid to a non-harmful gas, it cannot possibly cause hydrolock. Normal driving will not yield hydrolock. If you are driving around in very deep flooding water, it's possible.[/b]
I think you are misunderstanding me. I'm not saying the CAI and wet filter will cause hydrolock. I'm saying I'm worried about the long term effects of the small amount of water that does get by the filter since it seems to get soaked whenever you drive in the rain.
 

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I think you are misunderstanding me. I'm not saying the CAI and wet filter will cause hydrolock. I'm saying I'm worried about the long term effects of the small amount of water that does get by the filter since it seems to get soaked whenever you drive in the rain.[/b]
There are no effects. That water will evaporate due before it gets to the motor. It will not cause any damage. For example, a car with a ram air intake that will suck up rain water. They wouldn't make them if they caused damage.
 

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I think you are misunderstanding me. I'm not saying the CAI and wet filter will cause hydrolock. I'm saying I'm worried about the long term effects of the small amount of water that does get by the filter since it seems to get soaked whenever you drive in the rain.[/b]
What long-term effects? And I am not trying to start an argument here.......

But with the heat that eminates to the CAI, let alone the the intake manifold......I can't see water ever making it's way into the combustion chamber.

Oh, then there is the hot assed turbo in the intake tract as well. Nothing will ever remain a mixture of hydrogen and oxygen and make it into the combustion chamber.

there seem to be two factors in play, the sheer heat of it all, and the looooong amount of piping before you even get to the turbo to actually cause any damage?
 
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