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I have a 06 RL with SH-AWD as well as a Mazdaspeed 6, the RL system is definitely more sophisticated. The RL handles pretty well in the wet with its ability to vary the rotation of the wheels side to side. Seems to make the car feel more planted but the car isn’t really meant to be a sports sedan. I haven’t really driven the M6 in anything but rain but it seems that the stock tires are not amazing in the rain. I’ve had or have other cars with 4wd and the Acura seems to be quickest at reacting to slip as it seems to be adjusting a lot but you don’t really feel or notice it.
 

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I've become more appreciative of our haladex-type system. It can perform a 100-50 split...the same that and EVO can perform.
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Except its not the same as the evo can perform the system is COMPLETELY diffrent. The evo starts off at 50-50 driven by true diffrentials. It does not have to become AWD. Haldex is a coupling based system unable to account for diffrences in rotational movement of the wheels. It is primarily front wheel drive with a PTO that couples the rear wheels.
 

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Except its not the same as the evo can perform the system is COMPLETELY diffrent. The evo starts off at 50-50 driven by true diffrentials. It does not have to become AWD. Haldex is a coupling based system unable to account for diffrences in rotational movement of the wheels. It is primarily front wheel drive with a PTO that couples the rear wheels.
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see post number 17...
 

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you dont want a lecture, but you obviously do need one.
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Ok assclown please explain to me how the electro magnetic solenoid activates to engauge the clutchpack in the coupling located forward of the rear dif to engauge the rear wheels, and also explain how the % of power sent to the rear it determined by the frequency of the pules sent to the solenoid. Don't forget to mention that the drive shaft going to the coupling is always spinning and the computer that operates the coupling is a seperate entity from our ECU but receives information from it as well as, but not limited to, wheel speed, throttle position, brake engagement, driving style/conditions to determine weather to enter it's 3 modes of sport, dry, or snow. Importantly the temerature sensor is to ensure that with an increased frequency the clutch pack does not over heat and become damaged, readings from this temp sensor have the ability to shutdown the solenoid to prevent any futher increase in heat. Other factors including DCS, e-brake, and tire slippage can also affect the AWD computer's decisions. Would you like me to go into how the solenoid itself works with magnetic fields having to do with electromagnetic flux, inertia, and energy capacity? Or maybe the clutchpack with its multiple layers of semiabrasive surfaces properly distnced to not touch eachother till a force overcome the spring rate holding them apart and allows them to transfer motion, similar to thow the clutchpacks in an ATX change gears?

Could you please explain to me how the EVO, S4, and STi work for me too? I'd really appreciate hearing how the electronic controlled mechanical STi center diff works as well as the other vehicle's viscous and mecanical center difs and LSDs allow 4 wheel motion.

Like I said I don't need a lecture on how my AWD works and the next time you feel like mouthing off to someone try taking your head out of your ass so you can be heard more clearly. :thefing:
 

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Ok assclown please explain to me how the electro magnetic solenoid activates to engauge the clutchpack in the coupling located forward of the rear diff...

Like I said I don't need a lecture on how my AWD works...[/b]
OK. That pretty much covers everything for this thread. :) Have a nice day!
 

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Wow, some MS6 folks are really touchy when it comes to the AWD system used, hehe.

Cmon, putting out the statement about the "same" torque split ability as the Evo, you must have known you were gonna get the replies you got.

Everybody needs to go :drive: already.

As somebody already hinted at, SH-AWD is great on paper, but if it isn't applied as well as it could be. I still want to see how it works in a more sports-oriented car. Also curious about the long-term reliablity and power-handling ability of the system.
 

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Wow, some MS6 folks are really touchy when it comes to the AWD system used, hehe.

Cmon, putting out the statement about the "same" torque split ability as the Evo, you must have known you were gonna get the replies you got.

Everybody needs to go :drive: already.

As somebody already hinted at, SH-AWD is great on paper, but if it isn't applied as well as it could be. I still want to see how it works in a more sports-oriented car. Also curious about the long-term reliablity and power-handling ability of the system.
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I just don't appreciate a newb (bani) telling me I don't know my stuff.

I only meant to say the MS6 can perform a 50/50 split up to a 100/0 split.

The Evo can perform a 50/50 split up to a 100/0 split.

They get there by different means (and yes the EVO is a true full time AWD and the MS6 is not)
 

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Wow, some MS6 folks are really touchy when it comes to the AWD system used, hehe.

Cmon, putting out the statement about the "same" torque split ability as the Evo, you must have known you were gonna get the replies you got.[/b]
yep. the MS6 ain't no evo. not by a long shot. wonder why people here insist on comparing the MS6 to a rally car... apparently they keep thinking their MS6 is something it isn't.
 

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yep. the MS6 ain't no evo. not by a long shot. wonder why people here insist on comparing the MS6 to a rally car... apparently they keep thinking their MS6 is something it isn't.
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Welcome to the site. You'll see plenty of that here. There's a thread from a couple weeks ago where some dumbass compares the MS6 to a Corvette, C6 no less!, and talks about how the Vette "doesn't impress him". . .lol
 

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yep. the MS6 ain't no evo. not by a long shot. wonder why people here insist on comparing the MS6 to a rally car... apparently they keep thinking their MS6 is something it isn't.
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yeah and an RDX is absolutly no MS6 so why is that being compared to it or being discussed in the MS6 forum? Oh wait because they were comparing it's AWD...just like I was comparing the AWD of the EVO to it.

I have no dilusions about what my MS6 is or isnt. If I wanted an EVO I would own one instead of my MS6.
 

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if anything is a "scam" it's haldex, not sh-awd.
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have you ever made a post contributing to the discussion of a topic? Or do all of your posts come down to saying:
*insert topic of discussion here* sucks on the mazdaspeed6
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If you don't want to add something and only want to complain and bash others I suggest you head over to the srt4 forums

the whole point of this topic was Wheels observed a test that the Haladex-type (it's not actually haladex) AWD of the CX-7 outperformed Honda/Acura AWD
 

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strtfghtr and bani need to cool it, pleae just ignore each other if you have to. I don't want to close this thread!
 

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OWNED!!! by the mod gods lol j/k bani, stop talking trash strtghtr knows his stuff (sh!t)
 

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yea you are the leader and only troll you momo
 
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