Yea nothing works near as well as doing it the manual way. I bought a Steam cleaner for 200.00 last week tried it and was a big fat waste of money and time, so i returned it then i just bought a high power electric pressure washer 2 days ago, seemed to work ok but with out spoke style it is impossible to get it really clean without using a sponge and your elbow grease. I just returned the pressure washer this morning and still searching for an easier way to clean these wheels cause the brake dust is very excessive once a week i have to clean them to make me happy with the way they look. If anyone has a proven system that works as well as manual way without the manual hours of labor I am all ears and would love to hear it. Yes i know i can buy less dust brake pads i already looked into it and will try them out next. but still like my wheels very spotless.