paint sealant is like a polish i believe, you still have to apply wax as the final coat to protect the paint....I did a paint sealant to my car because I don't have the time to wax it 4 times a year. So I tried a paint sealant for the first time. It worked pretty well. Easy on, easy off with no residue. Very shiny too. :drive:
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most sealants say once a year but in all reality they dont work for a full year you should apply them just as often as wax imo.The sealent is from Griot's Garage and it says it's a once a year sealant. It's funny that the dealer will charge you $200-$300 for a paint sealant. I bought a bottle of paint sealant for $12 and it will do several apps. Can u say "Rip off?" :drive:
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That what I thought.....I usually wax at least 2x's a year any ways.most sealants say once a year but in all reality they dont work for a full year you should apply them just as often as wax imo.
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Agree. The synthetic sealant or polish such as Zaino or Klass All In One will give a great shine and reflection. And if you want a truly deep and rich color (especially on a black car), nothing beats natural carnauba wax (such as P21S). Just apply it right over the sealant or polish.Doesn't have to be an "either / or"..
I put two coats of sealant (24 hr cure time between coats), then wait a week and put a coat of wax. Looks phenomenal.
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i use a porter cable and it works wonders cuts the time in half, after that i go back and get the little spots that are hard to reach with a towel.What other brands of waxes have you guys used before? I am using Meguiers right now. I have had good result with it. I really like the Griot's Garage Sealant now. I will do a sealant and then a good wax by the end of the season before it gets too cold outside.
Do u guys perfer hand waxing or orbital buffer? I use orbital buffer and then hand waxing for tough areas. :drive:
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I have been using Cherry Finishing Wax for the last 3 mon. Just as the name says, it is a "Finishing" wax which means no abrasives, no cleaners. It asume you have a 'perfect' finish already and this is a topper coat. It lasts 3 wks and the great thing about it is, it has very little or even no residue after buffing.What other brands of waxes have you guys used before? I am using Meguiers right now. I have had good result with it. I really like the Griot's Garage Sealant now. I will do a sealant and then a good wax by the end of the season before it gets too cold outside.
Do u guys perfer hand waxing or orbital buffer? I use orbital buffer and then hand waxing for tough areas. :drive:
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I have been using Cherry Finishing Wax for the last 3 mon. Just as the name says, it is a "Finishing" wax which means no abrasives, no cleaners. It asume you have a 'perfect' finish already and this is a topper coat. It lasts 3 wks and the great thing about it is, it has very little or even no residue after buffing.
Guys who use finishing waxes are museums, dealerships, and guys who have exoctic cars who do not want any abrasives or cleaners to touch their fine paint jobs.
So before I had a "perfect" finish, I compounded, clayed and waxed/sealed. In the earlier posts about sealants, I used a wax & sealant. Very expensive (relative) but lasts 6 mon.
You can check all these out at www.prowax.com. The Cherry Finishing Wax is P-36 and the wax/sealant is called P-35 Satin Creme.
The detailers here after applying P-35 will also apply a coat of detailing wax like P-80 Golden Mist.
I did my compounding and polishing w/Porter Cable, but applied the waxes w/buffer. Tough areas I apply by hand.
Now that I have a durable perfect finish, I don't wax for 6 mon., I just apply P-80 Golden Mist after each washing. This wax is great, you can apply this even in the toughest areas and will not dry to white. All my trims, rubber, no problem. In fact if you watch "Pimp my Ride" put on by West Coast Customs, we make this product for them. They badge it w/their logo.
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No you never wax and then seal. Sealing in a wax will cause clouding. I was saying the wax I used is a wax and sealant together. Shortens detailing time. The only thing about this P-35 I don't like is, it is harder to work with. It is like any other wax experience. You get it on the rubber, and it when it dries, leaves it white and chaulky. I have to clean it out w/tooth brush. Like I mentioned earlier, it Lasts a long time. The label says 6 mon. but I accidentily dropped some on my driveway. It's still there, even after scrubbing w/metal brush. It's been 5 yrs! and still there. I know I can get it out w/solvents, but I am curious how long it will last in my driveway.Wax first and then seal? I thought it was seal first and wax last. Is there a reason why you wax and seal? Because it seals the wax? :huh:
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I've never even heard of the stuff. How long have you been treating you 6 with it? I got some paint swirls that are pissing me off and I'd like to get rid of them.I use the Griot's sealant on my pickup because it sits outside and I don't want to wax it every 3 months. It's good for hiding swirls. On the 6 (redfire) I've started using Rejex. It's working great for the metallic paint. It beads as well a month later as it did when fresh. I'm going to top it with a carnuba (Griot's Best of Show) and see how that looks.
Before I used Rejex, I never could see how synthetic and natural finishes differ. Rejex is like applying a thin layer of glass over the surface of the paint, while the Best of Show enhances the color itself more. I prefer the look of Rejex on metallics (plus you can coat your windows at the same time). I'm going to try it on my wife's Saab soon to see how it does with a solid color.
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I've only used it for a couple months and two applications. It didn't really need another coat, but I wanted to see if the second would enhance the first (it doesI've never even heard of the stuff. How long have you been treating you 6 with it? I got some paint swirls that are pissing me off and I'd like to get rid of them.
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Ok, here's 2 pics of fixtures on outside. 1st pic is original w/o wax. It is about 5 yrs of salty air. 2nd pic is a replaced fixture w/wax (P-35 Satin Creme). This fixture is now 2 yrs old. If you look closely, there is rust forming on all the screws and rust on the inside panel that attaches to the wall. I should have waxed the insides and screws as well! Next time, I am replacing these w/plastic fixtures!Because of its durability, I wax all my metal fixures, house number, anything metal, cuz I leave near the coast and we get salt air ruining the metal. Next time I will post some pictures of waxed fixtures and non-treated fixtues. Big difference. I believe other guys also a smilar product, Kasse or Zano but can't vouch for them.
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