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Coming home -- car is running great. 119 miles into the tank and wham! Where's my power? It felt like the engine computer pulled all the timing and fuel just above 4000. WTF? I'm in to see the dealer for the long lost HomeLink mirror (not available but the compass mirror is) on Monday. I'll see if they're aware of the reflash supposedly coming out.
 

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They'll probably say they are not aware of the reflash. I asked my service writer if they had heard anything about a re-flash for the cars, when I was by there a couple of weeks ago for an oil change, and they were not, at the time. Aren't you in the DFW area? I had the powerloss issue several times. Finally I took it back to the dealer, where I was able to duplicate the issue. To make a long story short, they drained the tank(they swear that's all they did), and 5000 plus miles later, the car runs flawlessly.

I bought the car from Hiley Mazda in Arlington at I-20 and Collins. The service writer I deal with is Chantel, and the tech that works on the Mazdaspeeds is Chase. They are both familiar with the issue, and I believe would take care of you. Goodluck.
 

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They'll probably say they are not aware of the reflash. I asked my service writer if they had heard anything about a re-flash for the cars, when I was by there a couple of weeks ago for an oil change, and they were not, at the time. Aren't you in the DFW area? I had the powerloss issue several times. Finally I took it back to the dealer, where I was able to duplicate the issue. To make a long story short, they drained the tank(they swear that's all they did), and 5000 plus miles later, the car runs flawlessly.

I bought the car from Hiley Mazda in Arlington at I-20 and Collins. The service writer I deal with is Chantel, and the tech that works on the Mazdaspeeds is Chase. They are both familiar with the issue, and I believe would take care of you. Goodluck.
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Yeah, it's me. The one who set the 13.76 ET.
The car has NEVER done this and did it 1/2way through the tank. I don't think that that is the *real* problem. Car has only seen 93 since day 0.
 

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Coming home -- car is running great. 119 miles into the tank and wham! Where's my power? It felt like the engine computer pulled all the timing and fuel just above 4000. WTF? I'm in to see the dealer for the long lost HomeLink mirror (not available but the compass mirror is) on Monday. I'll see if they're aware of the reflash supposedly coming out.
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Slightly off subject, but the homelink mirror will be available for the Speed 6 in about a month or so according to my service dept rep.
 

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i never experienced the powerloss symptoms until two weeks ago, now i have twice. i currently have about 3,550 miles, and always tank up with 93.

both times i was cruising home from work about 75mph and it was like a switch was thrown. the car lost about 100 horses and wouldn't go over 70. both times the problem was fixed with restarting the car.

my dealer, Jay Mazda in Columbus, GA, knows nothing of an ECU reflash. i'm going to try and get the car in Monday for that problem and some other minor adjustments.
 

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Slightly off subject, but the homelink mirror will be available for the Speed 6 in about a month or so according to my service dept rep.
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OT: Talked to Mazda USA for two days about this. No such mirror is showing up on their options. Just the compass mirror.
 

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Slightly off subject, but the homelink mirror will be available for the Speed 6 in about a month or so according to my service dept rep.
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Dstone20, thanks for the post.... I'm looking forward to seeing this option available in Canada!
 

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funny to pull this up today, 2800 miles and 1st time today, 55 miles at 75+ and exited freeway, and when I went to pull on to frontage road, nothing, it was like my old 76 ford grenada.. clutch, restarted, and fine. I used to work at a Mazda dealer, so I will call my friends there and have them reach Mazda, and if I find anything out, I will update.
 

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OT: Talked to Mazda USA for two days about this. No such mirror is showing up on their options. Just the compass mirror.
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I previously posted that because I couldn't get the Japanese Homelink mirror, my dealer took the original mirror mount off (had glass specialists do this), they then put on the US model mirror mount and I was able to use the Homelink mirror designed for the regular 6. Did this in October, and it has worked as it should.
 

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I previously posted that because I couldn't get the Japanese Homelink mirror, my dealer took the original mirror mount off (had glass specialists do this), they then put on the US model mirror mount and I was able to use the Homelink mirror designed for the regular 6. Did this in October, and it has worked as it should.
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I've asked twice for this -- in fact they attempted to mount the std 6 mirror. I asked them to replace the mount but "oh no... that would break the glass". Mazda support said the same thing. Grrrr....

Update on the powerloss: NO CHANGES to the gas. Drove it today and it's running like a scalded ape. Their can't be an OCTANE related issue since I have never changed the gas and the problem went away!
 

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a quick ?? for you w/power loss, I live in WI and today, the 1st time I have had the issue, it was over 70 degrees, it has happened 2 more times just today! :( before today it was never driven for any length of time in over 55 deg weather. Also, it only happens when I drive for a longer period of time, and then stop to pull onto a different road. So I wonder if heat does have alot to do w/it. I called my friend a master tech at a Mazda dealer, and he is going to call tech line first thing tommorow. He has been a tech for Mazda for many years, and know everyone at Mazda!! LETS HOPE HE GETS SOMEWHERE :swearin:
 

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Slightly off subject, but the homelink mirror will be available for the Speed 6 in about a month or so according to my service dept rep.
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Am I missing something here? I have already purchased and installed the Homelink/Compass/Autodimming mirror for my MS6. Bought it from Jason @ Montgomery Mazda.

Is there a different model coming out or something???

Allan
 

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Am I missing something here? I have already purchased and installed the Homelink/Compass/Autodimming mirror for my MS6. Bought it from Jason @ Montgomery Mazda.

Is there a different model coming out or something???

Allan
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The problem is the mount is not quite right on the std 6. It causes a slight wobble.... there is NO part number according to Mazda USA for the Speed6. I had the homelink mounted up on the window but it was unacceptable...

Did you save your info / part number on the mirror? If so I'll go back to Mazda with that info.

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Am I missing something here? I have already purchased and installed the Homelink/Compass/Autodimming mirror for my MS6. Bought it from Jason @ Montgomery Mazda.

Is there a different model coming out or something???

Allan
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The situation for the Mirror is that Mazda did not WANT it falling off. Wieght and Mount incorrect may cause it to drop off when put under extremes(cold, heat and vibration). So the offering was pulled for now.
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On the Loss, do not forget that condensation will also activate the Knock sensor. And a difference in Heat and Humudity will cause water droplets to form within a tank which is less than 3/4 full. I used to pump out tanks like crazy, of water at stations in the Central Valley of Cali and in Washington because of condensation.
And the pumps will filter some of this, yet many dealers employees do not drain the traps and water will also get through to our tanks.
I had pwr loss once on the way down to San Antonio. I started the trip with 1/2 tank and the day before, it was only 60deg and 45% humid. That morning it was 89% humidity and 62deg. I created a variable by heat also with the exhaust and moving the fuels. I just shut it off while cruising on the road and restarted. Pulled into a chevron and filled up and VOILA! No troubles all day long.
Just a view and thought ;)
 

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The situation for the Mirror is that Mazda did not WANT it falling off. Wieght and Mount incorrect may cause it to drop off when put under extremes(cold, heat and vibration). So the offering was pulled for now.
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On the Loss, do not forget that condensation will also activate the Knock sensor. And a difference in Heat and Humudity will cause water droplets to form within a tank which is less than 3/4 full. I used to pump out tanks like crazy, of water at stations in the Central Valley of Cali and in Washington because of condensation.
And the pumps will filter some of this, yet many dealers employees do not drain the traps and water will also get through to our tanks.
I had pwr loss once on the way down to San Antonio. I started the trip with 1/2 tank and the day before, it was only 60deg and 45% humid. That morning it was 89% humidity and 62deg. I created a variable by heat also with the exhaust and moving the fuels. I just shut it off while cruising on the road and restarted. Pulled into a chevron and filled up and VOILA! No troubles all day long.
Just a view and thought ;)
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Thanks for the info on the mirror. Seems to match what Mazda was telling me -- still wish they would have changed the mount but oh well...

I'm still perplexed by the powerloss. I've been racing cars for years and never seen this situation. So what do I think based on how it felt? Fuel starvation. Could the fuel pump have gone whacko? This is a 1600psi injection system (someone chime in with the exact numbers). Also if the timing were pulled it would do it. That could be a 'protection' mode that the computer trips into and won't untrip until you reset it (key off/on).

In my situation I was part way through the tank and it hit like a ton of bricks. It's been running right on since then.

Weird.

I'm going to bring it up to the service dept (Freeman Mazda, Irving TX) when I bring the car in Monday for the mirror.
 

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Happened again, today, in the EXACT same spot of my drive home! Coming off the toll-road onto the highway and punched it off the ramp and it was dead. Just prior it was ripping through the exit ramp!

Pulled it off into a parking lot and confirmed it was the powerloss. Shut it off and immediately restarted and the power was back. It dropped out again about 5 miles up the road. Same MO: off, on, power is back!

Sounds like a computer glitch and not the fuel.
 

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i just got my car back from the dealer after turning it in for powerloss and other random problems. after two days in the shop, the dealer's explanation was more inventive than most, here's what the advisor said "you were probably driving behind someone going really slow, so that made you feel like you were going real slow" to which i said i hadn't imagained the three instances of powerloss that were fixed with a restart of the car, and she said "it's probably imagined" and that no ECU reflash is pending. next time i experience powerloss i'm heading straight to the dealer without restarting the car.

the funny thing is i have experienced powerloss all three times on my 20 mile commute home from work, but this weekend i drove the car 500+ miles in the georgia heat without problem .
 

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http://forum.mazda6club.com/index.php?showtopic=50798&st=0

It's a known problem and mazda is working on it. Most dealers don't even understand the Mazdaspeed 6 car as differing from a normal 6, let alone how anything in the engine works.

Picking a dealer for an MPS 6 visit is going to take significant research on the owners part...I doubt some of the speed dealers have even read the technical highlight manuals yet.
 

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as an owner i don't care what must be done to fix the problem, just make it right. i know the problem is with the individual dealers, but why hasn't mazda nao published a warning to the dealers to expect problems?

as of now, it's up to me to montior the boards to find out when the TSB is posted. seems a little ass-backwards. . . i don't have much confidence in the dealer support for the speed6.
 

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mk706, there is no way in hell I would let them tell me that its my imagination, that would have really pissed me off!

My dealer seems pretty damn knowledgeable (Hancock Mazda of Mesquite, TX) about the MS6. My service writer always raves about how fun that car is and how much fun he had in it on Mazda's track day. He seems to look after it real well since he knows just how sweet that car is.

He drives a turbo Supra with 22+psi of boost, so he knows a bit about turbo systems. He was also the master mechanic for 11 years before he was promoted.
I just hope he is understanding of mods on this car!
 
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