[FORZDA 1]

This info from Trey Cobb copied from the Cobb Forum:


Looking like a Monday release guys. We can't release on a Friday and there was more testing necessary than usual. We've moved over to a new code repository system since the last release so the developers wanted to do a higher degree of testing than normal to verify everything was working as expected. Don't want to grenade any ECUs.

Here is a sneak peek of the release notes:

New Features:

• Tuner Auto Updater
  • Users can accesss tuner software updates through the "Help/Updates" menu.
    • Users will no longer have to download the latest tuner version to stay up-to-date.
    • Rollback - users also have the ability to rollback to the previous release of Tuner by using the "Help/Updates/Rollback last update" option.

• Added AP MGR 2.0 Installer

• Added HPFP Control Tables (BETA)
  • HPFP Desired Pressure - Max A
  • HPFP Desired Pressure - Max B
  • HPFP Desired Pressure A
  • HPFP Desired Pressure B
  • HPFP Desired Pressure C
  • HPFP Desired Pressure ECT Comp

• Added Knock Tables (BETA)
  • Knock Retard - Decay Magnitude A
  • Knock Retard - Decay Magnitude B
  • Knock Retard - Decay Rate A
  • Knock Retard - Decay Rate B
  • Knock Retard - Multiplier
  • Knock Retard - Offset
  • Knock Retard Active - Min ECT
  • Knock Retard Active - Min Load A
  • Knock Retard Active - Min Load B
  • Knock Retard Active - RPM (Max)
  • Knock Retard Active - RPM (Min)

• Added Radiator Fan Tables (BETA)
  • Radiator Fan - ECT Thresholds
  • Radiator Fan - Voltage Compensation

• Added MAP Sensor Scaling Tables (Sesnor Cal. Tables)
  • MAP Scalar for EM - Component A
  • MAP Scalar for EM - Component B
  • MAP Scalar for EM - Offset
  • MAP Scalar for Log - Component A
  • MAP Scalar for Log - Component B
  • MAP Scalar for Log - Offset
  • MAP Scalar for OBD - Component A
  • MAP Scalar for OBD - Component B
  • MAP Scalar for OBD - Offset

• Added Ignition Compensation Tables
  • Ign BAT vs ECT Comp. - % Used
  • Ign BAT vs ECT Comp. A
  • Ign BAT vs ECT Comp. B
  • Ign Low Octane Reduction
  • Ign Per Cylinder Comp.

• Increased Boost Pressure Logging Limit
  • Increased limit to log boost pressure above 24 PSI.

Bug Fixes:

• Fixed MIL Defeat
  • MIL defeat implementation has been corrected for 06-07 MS6, 07-08 MS3, and 09 MS3.
  • See "Edit\Advanced Engine Parameters\Toggles(Base)" for complete list of defeatable codes.

• Fixed Live Tracing

I also added toggled to enable individual cylinder ignition compensation.

A toggle is available to switch the ECU from using the Load Dynamics table to instead use the Boost Dynamics table. What this means is instead of the ECU tweaking the WG Duty cycle based on Load Error (difference of Desired Load against Actual Load) it will instead control the turbo based on Boost Error (different of Desired Boost against Actual Boost).

Finally a toggle is added to activate the Load Target table. This just enable a more simplistic Load Target functionality for the ECU so instead of using all the various potential gear based and other logic driven Load Target tables it simply pulls the target from the single Load Target table and runs with it.

Both those toggles have been added to assist you all with stable boost control. Of course you don't need to use them and the system will continue to operate 100% as before.

Cheers,
Trey @ COBB

 

[MWSpeed6]

I'm looking forward to playing with the Load Targets the Boost Dynamics toggles. Simpler boost control sometimes is better. But I also like the fact that they are optional.

 

[The Great NY]

move over CPE? lot nice new features for you guys. congrats and enjoy

 

[jeb8699]

i have the cobb ap installed on my ms6 never really started upgrading a car till this one, and never had a turbo. im not tech savey either woundering if anyone can explain this a little better for me thanks

 

[JumpingJackson]

I dont see load axis rescaling in that list thats the big thing im waiting for before i get tuned

 

[Navy_Mech2]

The HPFP desired pressure tables...would this be a 'bandaid' solution to the stock pump crapping out at high rpm? To me it seems like this would only benefit you if you had an aftermarket pump/internals since if im not mistaken, the stock pump is physically limited in flow and not so by the ECU.

 

[bova80]

no this won't help your stock pump, the reason the stock pump craps out is cause it can't keep up, nothing but an upgraded pump can fix that, or a detune.

 

[Navy_Mech2]

I figured as much.

 

[p057]

i dont see anything on their site sections. i must be blind.

 

[MWSpeed6]

i dont see anything on their site sections. i must be blind.

The thread being updated about this is the Load Cap thread under the MS3 section.

 

[AtTheDriveIn]

I have no clue what's going on in the OP... *sigh*

 

[FORZDA 1]

Well crap. Looks like we'll have to wait another day. I've not seen or heard of anything from Trey on ATR...

 

[AtTheDriveIn]

A toggle is available to switch the ECU from using the Load Dynamics table to instead use the Boost Dynamics table. What this means is instead of the ECU tweaking the WG Duty cycle based on Load Error (difference of Desired Load against Actual Load) it will instead control the turbo based on Boost Error (different of Desired Boost against Actual Boost).

Finally a toggle is added to activate the Load Target table. This just enable a more simplistic Load Target functionality for the ECU so instead of using all the various potential gear based and other logic driven Load Target tables it simply pulls the target from the single Load Target table and runs with it.

Both those toggles have been added to assist you all with stable boost control. Of course you don't need to use them and the system will continue to operate 100% as before.

So from what I read and possibly understand, it can now do the same shit the Standback does? Run raw tables? I've been so contemplating on joining the darkside and running Standback. Cobb needs to pick up their game.

 

[MWSpeed6]

Yeah it sounds like you can choose to control load and boost is a more simplified way that produces more predictable results. I'm really curious to try it.

 

[dougefresh_]

Cool, thanks for the info.

 

[FORZDA 1]

So from what I read and possibly understand, it can now do the same shit the Standback does? Run raw tables? I've been so contemplating on joining the darkside and running Standback. Cobb needs to pick up their game.

Well, not "raw tables". What they have done is simplify my "boost tuning" technique from MANY table changes into a simple switch box option. This isn't the big deal for me. The "good stuff" is the knock sensor and fuel pressure tuning options.

With this ATR release, the AP is WAY ahead of the SB+flash combo IMO.

The only thing CPE has over Cobb is their tendancy to keep "secrets" from the tuning community. CPE MUST keep their secrets to maintain ANY decent market share where Cobb tells ALL and will crush CPE's SB. The SB is STILL a piggyback that MUST have their "secret" flash(es) to even be a worthwhile option.

FYI, there are NO secrets to "tuning" an internal combustion engine, just widespread ignorance and miss-information. They all have the same basic requirements. The "trick" is to find the right combination for the particular application, NOT some magic or secret doodad that you can just buy, slap on and be "tuned".

CPE STILL pisses me off with their marketing crap. I do fully understand WHY they feel the need to do it, but that is what makes it so pathetic to me. They can't compete directly with Cobb with a (re)flash device so they try and fool the unsuspecting into thinking the SB is somehow a holy grail. It is NOT.

Another FYI is that a CPE representative offered me a full SB/flash setup for FREE if I would just run it and drop the AP. Ok, done now....

 

[bmorrisj]

^ you are my hero...


and where is ATR, im on day 3 of a 4 day weekend, and i feel like so much tuning time has been wasted

 

[FORZDA 1]

Well, it seems that Cobb was a bit optimistic in the release date. Word on their forum is that the tesing isn't quite done yet, so we'll wait a bit longer. Fine by me, I just want it to work well when released!

 

[FORZDA 1]

Good thing I didn't say WHICH Monday! Dang it!

 

[MWSpeed6]

Yeah exactly. But neither did Trey... Maybe he meant the first Monday of 2011 or something