I didn't get NAV. I find that some of the aftermarket NAV units have much better features. I don't like the lack of touch screen and must use the remote. It makes it harder to operate while driving. It takes a lot longer to operate.
Nav or Not To Nav? That is the question
I'm having trouble deciding whether or not to purchase a Speed6 with Nav. Originally I thought that I did not want Nav, but due to the fact that just about every available car near me has Nav, I have somehow convinced myself I should get it.
I can't think of any immediate Cons, other than cost, and for Pros, I thought it would help resale value, as well as look much nicer than aftermarket. How do you guys feel?
I can't think of any immediate Cons, other than cost, and for Pros, I thought it would help resale value, as well as look much nicer than aftermarket. How do you guys feel?
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no nav for me. Mapquest or Tom Toms are better and much much cheaper.
the remote makes it easier to operate while driving. imagine if you had to reach your hand to the screen to scroll on the map, or to enter a destination, etc. because of the location of the screen, the joystick remote is a must.I didn't get NAV. I find that some of the aftermarket NAV units have much better features. I don't like the lack of touch screen and must use the remote. It makes it harder to operate while driving. It takes a lot longer to operate.
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unfortuately the nav in the speed6s (06 & 07) are 05 models. therefore, you don't get all the bells and whistles the cx-7 nav gets. (traffic, rear vision system, etc)I'm having trouble deciding whether or not to purchase a Speed6 with Nav. Originally I thought that I did not want Nav, but due to the fact that just about every available car near me has Nav, I have somehow convinced myself I should get it.
I can't think of any immediate Cons, other than cost, and for Pros, I thought it would help resale value, as well as look much nicer than aftermarket. How do you guys feel?
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still, it's got all the basic functions you need. (though, map d/b is outdated, but i'm sure denso or teleatlas / gdt can supply new dvd.. ask the dealer) the cost of nav is amortized into your monthly car payments, so it's not so bad.
I'm glad I got it. The screen is big, its easy to operate, and has nice clean factory look.
lol, same here! :drive:works for me
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Save the $2,000 on the nav option and build yourself a CarPC for <$1,000.
Much more functional, nav & more. Thats my next project in the works.
Much more functional, nav & more. Thats my next project in the works.
I didn't go with nav, because I figured I could buy a lot of maps for $2,000. If the nav option had a more reasonable price, like $200, I might have considered it.
Plus, I'm doubly-glad I didn't get nav, because I ending up mounting my gauges in the map pocket.
Plus, I'm doubly-glad I didn't get nav, because I ending up mounting my gauges in the map pocket.
At first i wasnt going to get it, it doesnt allow me to enter destinations by voice (which almost every 06 car with Nav does, and also i found the menu system pretty crappy), but i decided as long as im paying this much for a car and want Nav i may as well get the option so it is factory and looks clean. Im glad i did as i use it quite a bit and love the fact that it is clean and hides away!
I was in the same boat with my Mazda3 a few years ago.
I really wanted the NAV and thought, well I'll just get an aftermarket one for 1/4 the price.
THEY SUCK. Sure some are pretty nice in features etc, but you have a bunch of dangly wires and an ugly suction cupped box hanging from your window or dash. If you choose to mount it you have to take apart your dash which is a hassle. The OEM NAV may not be the market leader but it sits nicely in the car and it really is easy to use once you get used to it.
When I bought my MS6, I told my self I'm not getting one without NAV and I'm glad I got it.
Things I like about it:
1. Nice clean install, no wires or other danglies.
2. LARGE screen and fast refresh rate, not a flickery epileptic seizure causing screen like some aftermarket navs.
3. VERY FAST TO UPDATE. Many aftermarket NAVs often don't tell you which exit to take until you've JUST PASSED IT.
Things I dislike about it:
1. The auto up/down feature. Someday I'm going to jam a twig in there to lock it in the upright position!
2. No touch screen. Not as terrible as you think. The remote can be handy but not as user friendly for the first several usages.
3. Like all NAV systems, you cant enter an address while moving.
It NEVER gets her voice commands right.
Her grandparents have a Lexus something or other w/ voice activated NAV and it has the same problem.
I really wanted the NAV and thought, well I'll just get an aftermarket one for 1/4 the price.
THEY SUCK. Sure some are pretty nice in features etc, but you have a bunch of dangly wires and an ugly suction cupped box hanging from your window or dash. If you choose to mount it you have to take apart your dash which is a hassle. The OEM NAV may not be the market leader but it sits nicely in the car and it really is easy to use once you get used to it.
When I bought my MS6, I told my self I'm not getting one without NAV and I'm glad I got it.
Things I like about it:
1. Nice clean install, no wires or other danglies.
2. LARGE screen and fast refresh rate, not a flickery epileptic seizure causing screen like some aftermarket navs.
3. VERY FAST TO UPDATE. Many aftermarket NAVs often don't tell you which exit to take until you've JUST PASSED IT.
Things I dislike about it:
1. The auto up/down feature. Someday I'm going to jam a twig in there to lock it in the upright position!
2. No touch screen. Not as terrible as you think. The remote can be handy but not as user friendly for the first several usages.
3. Like all NAV systems, you cant enter an address while moving.
My wife has the second generation Prius w/ voice activated NAV.At first i wasnt going to get it, it doesnt allow me to enter destinations by voice (which almost every 06 car with Nav does, and also i found the menu system pretty crappy), but i decided as long as im paying this much for a car and want Nav i may as well get the option so it is factory and looks clean. Im glad i did as i use it quite a bit and love the fact that it is clean and hides away!
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It NEVER gets her voice commands right.
Her grandparents have a Lexus something or other w/ voice activated NAV and it has the same problem.
I definitly don't get factory NAV. A Magellan Garmin or TomTom will work better and are cheaper. I'm getting the Magellan Roadmate 3000T for xmas.
CarPC for that $2000. Check out Streetdeck (http://www.streetdeck.com) and Centrafuse (http://www.fluxmedia.net/). See http://www.mp3car.com/vbulletin/ for general CarPC info.
i got the nav for the screen. i'll build my carpc off that 
I don't mean to argue with you, I mean, everyone is entitled to an opinion, but can you clearify on why you think TomTom will work better?I definitly don't get factory NAV. A Magellan Garmin or TomTom will work better and are cheaper. I'm getting the Magellan Roadmate 3000T for xmas.
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Again, not my intention to bash just curious:
1. Have you used the OEM Nav for more than just a testdrive?
2. Have you used TomTom for more that just a testdrive?
3. What priorities do you apply to a NAV.
TomTom is smaller, must be plugged in (which means wires everywhere) plus the antennae has to be run somewhere.
It does play MP3s and can make phone calls, but those are low price upgrades for any car.
As far as cheaper, TomTom is like $600 or so, and after time and labor of getting it all nice and fancy in your car without cables everywhere is probably not saving you a lot.
Just my opinion...
Depending on the size and shape of your aftermarket nav, you might be able to get it to fit in the JDM nav dash panel. Discovered it recently for the RX-8 community and mazdaparts.com used their connection to import it. It's an OEM part used by JDM Mazda dealers for dealer-installed aftermarket nav systems (in Japan you can get pionner, Alpine, etc. systems as nav only with a touch screen and CPU... no radio, etc.). This piece is also available for the Mazda6 and Mazda3.
The piece looks like a normal dash panel, but has a sliding cover that you open to manually flip up a screen. The screen mount, and flip mechanism is all part of the kit. It'll fit pretty much any 7" screen. The cost is somewhere around $300, I believe.
The piece looks like a normal dash panel, but has a sliding cover that you open to manually flip up a screen. The screen mount, and flip mechanism is all part of the kit. It'll fit pretty much any 7" screen. The cost is somewhere around $300, I believe.
how does a pnd work better than an in-vehicle nav? please explain this to me.I definitly don't get factory NAV. A Magellan Garmin or TomTom will work better and are cheaper. I'm getting the Magellan Roadmate 3000T for xmas.
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accuracy? speed? updated map d/b? # of poi's? strength of gps signal? HMI intuitiveness?
sure, but do paper-maps automatically re-route for you if you run into a construction detour? do they show you where the nearest mcdonalds, wendy's, or taco bell is, when you're somewhere you do not know well?![]()
works for me
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The car I wanted had factory nav, so I bought it. Now I love it. Aftermarkets are just too cluttered and the screens are smaller. Go for it.I'm having trouble deciding whether or not to purchase a Speed6 with Nav. Originally I thought that I did not want Nav, but due to the fact that just about every available car near me has Nav, I have somehow convinced myself I should get it.
I can't think of any immediate Cons, other than cost, and for Pros, I thought it would help resale value, as well as look much nicer than aftermarket. How do you guys feel?
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OK OK OK. Please, can we have a little sanity here?...
I just find it remarkable the people who always come out of the woodwork when this topic comes up to run up and dump on the factory NAV... Often in favor of Tom Toms and the like, having never really used the factory unit. Most often, it seems, their reasons are at best very individual/financial, and at worst, flat out ignorant and misinformed.
-With current pricing the NAV more realistically breaks down to costing under $1500. Please compare a similarly featured and well built after market NAV w/ high quality professional installation/integration.
-As previously mentioned; touch screen and voice activation are often not the be all and end all of features that people THINK they are. Real world usability and accuracy varies greatly from user to user and model to model. ESP. voice activation. The remote can be remarkably efficient and intuitive. While not perfect, it's pretty damn good and well thought out. Except, I guess, for some cavemen/women :goon: . No offense.
-Sort of in reference to the previous point, many people have not used both or even either at length(relying on second/third hand info from a friend or even just "some guy"), but seem to have some of the strongest opinions on the subject. Do a poll if you like, but I think you'll find that those who actually have the factory NAV love it, even those who only got it because that was what was available. I think you'd find that very, very few who hate it, or wouldn't get it again if given a second chance.
-I'd say get it, and enjoy it. Just about everybody here who did, does. Which is I guess is what you wanted to know by starting this thread. Ha. :drive:
I just find it remarkable the people who always come out of the woodwork when this topic comes up to run up and dump on the factory NAV... Often in favor of Tom Toms and the like, having never really used the factory unit. Most often, it seems, their reasons are at best very individual/financial, and at worst, flat out ignorant and misinformed.
-With current pricing the NAV more realistically breaks down to costing under $1500. Please compare a similarly featured and well built after market NAV w/ high quality professional installation/integration.
-As previously mentioned; touch screen and voice activation are often not the be all and end all of features that people THINK they are. Real world usability and accuracy varies greatly from user to user and model to model. ESP. voice activation. The remote can be remarkably efficient and intuitive. While not perfect, it's pretty damn good and well thought out. Except, I guess, for some cavemen/women :goon: . No offense.
-Sort of in reference to the previous point, many people have not used both or even either at length(relying on second/third hand info from a friend or even just "some guy"), but seem to have some of the strongest opinions on the subject. Do a poll if you like, but I think you'll find that those who actually have the factory NAV love it, even those who only got it because that was what was available. I think you'd find that very, very few who hate it, or wouldn't get it again if given a second chance.
-I'd say get it, and enjoy it. Just about everybody here who did, does. Which is I guess is what you wanted to know by starting this thread. Ha. :drive:
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