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For other car makes, it seems like you can just get the same standard tune that they deliver to all cars. Why does OVT need to customize it to each car for Mazda? Is that a Mazda thing or an OVT thing? If they've developed a tune that was good for one car, couldn't they develop a "safe" standard tune that may not be ultimate performance but deliver better performance than stock?
 

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Nothing new to report... Still on tune #2.
 

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The amount of time this has taken is simply out of control.
Indeed.

Has anyone done a dyno tune at a local performance shop near them? Any reason for an experienced performance shop to not touch these Skyactiv turbo engines? I have a few within a 30 minute drive from my house, one of them is part of the Northcoast Miata Club, with experience in Skyactiv/Mazda technology.
 

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Sorry to hear that...

Unfortunately, this is directly at the hands of Mat. I don't have any direct access to him except as a customer like you. If it were from Rafa, we can easily reach out to him.
No problem, I do appreciate all of your help though. I'd be happy if I got some word back on the last logs to make sure everything looked okay and if #2 was the last tune I'd be okay as long as I knew the logs were okay. It was given a decent power boost with the last tune. So much so that I am going to need tires soon. Torque...
 

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For other car makes, it seems like you can just get the same standard tune that they deliver to all cars. Why does OVT need to customize it to each car for Mazda? Is that a Mazda thing or an OVT thing? If they've developed a tune that was good for one car, couldn't they develop a "safe" standard tune that may not be ultimate performance but deliver better performance than stock?
"OVT doesn't need to customize it for each car of Mazda, but we do so because we want to give the customers a tailor-fit tune, moreso for those with car modifications. It's more of an obsession into making sure we provide each customer of our best service. Specially, taking into consideration that there are different factors regarding: engine/car make (tolerances from the factory), maintainance and use of owners, altitude, season, and fuel quality, to name a few factors that vary per customer.

Alternatively, we do deliver a "safe standard tune that may not be ultimate performance but deliver better performance than stock" which is the basefile (tune # 1)."

That is their reply to your question.
 

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"OVT doesn't need to customize it for each car of Mazda, but we do so because we want to give the customers a tailor-fit tune, moreso for those with car modifications. It's more of an obsession into making sure we provide each customer of our best service. Specially, taking into consideration that there are different factors regarding: engine/car make (tolerances from the factory), maintainance and use of owners, altitude, season, and fuel quality, to name a few factors that vary per customer.

Alternatively, we do deliver a "safe standard tune that may not be ultimate performance but deliver better performance than stock" which is the basefile (tune # 1)."

That is their reply to your question.
Thanks for getting that question answered. I'm surprised they don't just offer the basefile tune #1 to everyone with the disclaimer that while safe for the car, it won't offer all the performance possible. I'd pay a few hundred bucks to boost my stock performance but right now I don't even have the option. It wouldn't cost them much time beyond what they've already put in and could offer them some return on investment. Seems like some easy money to leave on the table with many on here wanting a tune.
 

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Thanks for getting that question answered. I'm surprised they don't just offer the basefile tune #1 to everyone with the disclaimer that while safe for the car, it won't offer all the performance possible. I'd pay a few hundred bucks to boost my stock performance but right now I don't even have the option. It wouldn't cost them much time beyond what they've already put in and could offer them some return on investment. Seems like some easy money to leave on the table with many on here wanting a tune.
I'd pay a couple hundred bucks for that easily!
 

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Still nothing...

About a baseline tune... It might be worth it if the price was reasonable, but my baseline did not change much. I really only noticed a significant increase in power with tune #2. Not to say there was not an increase with #1, there was, but it was minimal. I saw just as much improvement in responsiveness, etc. with the Pedal Commander. Now, the Pedal Commander does not give any more power, but it does make the throttle more responsive, no factory "dead pedal" feel, and gets you spooling quicker because you are getting more throttle per user input.

I believe that most of you would be happy with just the Pedal Commander to be honest. Not knocking OVT, even with all of my trials and tribulations, as they do great work, but for a better feel, more fun to drive-ability, etc. the Pedal Commander might be a good fit for a lot of members, plus your tune does not change from the nice safe factory tune. Not to say the OVT tune isn't safe, but for warranty purposes, etc. you can easily remove the Pedal Commander, whereas a good tech might look for key-on/key-off logs kept by the ECU and notice they do not match the amount of miles you have on the car (these are reset each time you upload a new tune, at least this is how it used to be with OBD ECUs) and realize you loaded an aftermarket tune.
 

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Thanks for the info on the pedal commander. I just started researching it and you may be right - that may be all I need.

A question for you about it - does it really improve your acceleration times like they claim? I get that it makes the pedal more responsive, but can't I get the same affect by pushing on the pedal more or is there more to it?

In other words, going full WOT, it doesn't affect that right? The throttle is still going to open the same amount. The main difference is when pushing the pedal lightly, it will open the throttle to the same amount as, say, pushing it half way? That would make it feel more responsive and fun to drive, but won't make it go to 60 any faster.

One concern I have is I find it hard to launch "hard" from a stop as is. I have to feather the throttle so I don't spin the tires and apply more pressure gradually until I'm moving a bit. Does the pedal commander make that harder or easier?

And on your tune - couldn't your tune #2 be the new baseline for all cars or is that too close to the edge? Couldn't they just dial that tune back a bit to make it safe and the default tune?
 

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Thanks for the info on the pedal commander. I just started researching it and you may be right - that may be all I need.

A question for you about it - does it really improve your acceleration times like they claim? I get that it makes the pedal more responsive, but can't I get the same affect by pushing on the pedal more or is there more to it?

In other words, going full WOT, it doesn't affect that right? The throttle is still going to open the same amount. The main difference is when pushing the pedal lightly, it will open the throttle to the same amount as, say, pushing it half way? That would make it feel more responsive and fun to drive, but won't make it go to 60 any faster.

One concern I have is I find it hard to launch "hard" from a stop as is. I have to feather the throttle so I don't spin the tires and apply more pressure gradually until I'm moving a bit. Does the pedal commander make that harder or easier?

And on your tune - couldn't your tune #2 be the new baseline for all cars or is that too close to the edge? Couldn't they just dial that tune back a bit to make it safe and the default tune?
 

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Of course won't get you anymore power, but it will take the lag out of the throttle. In essence you get more actual throttle blade opening per pedal input (the throttle will in essence open quicker). This is adjustable, but I think City with no +/- is the optimal setting without the pedal being stupidly touchy. Since you take out the lag, I think you probably could see some improvement in acceleration times. It might only be a tenth or two, since you will be at WOT most of the time, but it seems realistic. In daily driving there is no comparison between stock and the City setting on the P.C. It feels like it should have all along. 10/10 recommend just for the simple improvement in drivability and pleasure.

Thanks for the info on the pedal commander. I just started researching it and you may be right - that may be all I need.

A question for you about it - does it really improve your acceleration times like they claim? I get that it makes the pedal more responsive, but can't I get the same affect by pushing on the pedal more or is there more to it?

In other words, going full WOT, it doesn't affect that right? The throttle is still going to open the same amount. The main difference is when pushing the pedal lightly, it will open the throttle to the same amount as, say, pushing it half way? That would make it feel more responsive and fun to drive, but won't make it go to 60 any faster.

One concern I have is I find it hard to launch "hard" from a stop as is. I have to feather the throttle so I don't spin the tires and apply more pressure gradually until I'm moving a bit. Does the pedal commander make that harder or easier?

And on your tune - couldn't your tune #2 be the new baseline for all cars or is that too close to the edge? Couldn't they just dial that tune back a bit to make it safe and the default tune?
 

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Oh and still nothing on a tune #3...
 

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Of course won't get you anymore power, but it will take the lag out of the throttle. In essence you get more actual throttle blade opening per pedal input (the throttle will in essence open quicker). This is adjustable, but I think City with no +/- is the optimal setting without the pedal being stupidly touchy. Since you take out the lag, I think you probably could see some improvement in acceleration times. It might only be a tenth or two, since you will be at WOT most of the time, but it seems realistic. In daily driving there is no comparison between stock and the City setting on the P.C. It feels like it should have all along. 10/10 recommend just for the simple improvement in drivability and pleasure.
Useful feedback. Thank you.
 

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I posted a review on the Pedal Commander some time ago...




Useful feedback. Thank you.
 
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