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Originally posted by Querier@Oct 12 2004, 11:53 PM
Hi, Here are the information for your reference.

- 2003 Mazda 6 Sedan
- About the photo, I am in trouble to attach the photo here coz the total file size is over 3MB. Any other way to transfer the files to you.

By the way, thx in advance for helping me checking the compatibility of the MP3 player with my headunit.
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You have the option of displaying disc+track+time info, ID3 info,
directory name or filename. Again, you've got that 10 character
LED display limit with a max of 30 characters via scrolling with the
radio's TUNING knob...
How do you switch between these modes?
 

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Originally posted by pwkpete@Oct 13 2004, 04:07 PM
How do you switch between these modes?
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Look for the button marked "DISPLAY" on the right side
of the radio controls. Make sure you're playing a song
that has all of the main ID3 tags populated (album name,
artist name, song name) or else you won't see any
difference when you switch between displaying these
fields.

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I just bought and installed my mp3 player today as well. Did anyone else notice that the words text scroll (under the right tuning knob) do not light up like all the rest of the writing? Sort of dissappointing. Is that normal?
 

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man, this whole time i thought the MP3 player is a 6cd in dash but it turns out that its a single cd player, and i dont think i'll swap my 6-cd in dash for a single, MP3 or not. I think with all the CD's i burn i'll stick to the 6cd and i'll buy one of those super CD wallets which hold like 200 cd's off Amazon.com or something. Damn, i am now not happy because i was looking forward to buying that MP3 player, but alas, its a mere single cd in dash, cant have that.
 
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Originally posted by mazdahatch@Sep 18 2004, 11:34 PM

So far I still haven't tried out a variable bitrate disc so I can't say how well it will work, if at all.

VBR works just fine in my player. I used Lame 3.92, option --alt-preset standard, which creates decent quality VBRs between 128kbps and 320 kbps. I haven't tried any other settings (and probably won't since --alt-preset standard is a nice quality/size tradeoff for me).
 

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Originally posted by Confuc1ous@Nov 1 2004, 11:00 AM
...i dont think i'll swap my 6-cd in dash for a single, MP3 or not.  I think with all the CD's i burn i'll stick to the 6cd and i'll buy one of those super CD wallets which hold like 200 cd's off Amazon.com or something...
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I wouldn't have gone for MP3, either, except that one MP3 disc holds
10 to 12 albums worth of music -- double what you get with the 6-disc
changer. My wife loves it since she gets by on 3 CDs in the car.

If you're going to buy a big CD case check out this 288-disc
case for $10. I bought one for my DVDs and it is freakin -huge-
and was $40 less than the $50 case logic case at Best Buy.

288 disc case for $10



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Originally posted by mazdahatch@Nov 7 2004, 07:58 PM
I wouldn't have gone for MP3, either, except that one MP3 disc holds
10 to 12 albums worth of music -- double what you get with the 6-disc
changer. My wife loves it since she gets by on 3 CDs in the car.

If you're going to buy a big CD case check out this 288-disc
case for $10.  I bought one for my DVDs and it is freakin -huge-
and was $40 less than the $50 case logic case at Best Buy.

288 disc case for $10

-mazdahatch
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I have to agree. Why would you want to have 200 CD's in your car when you can have the same music on only 20! Not only do you have to burn less discs (cost savings), but God forbid someone steals your CD wallet. With the MP3 player, you replace 20 (which are saved on your computer). Just drop in the CD-Rs and re-burn. You can also organize the music any way you want on the MP3 discs. By genre, group, album, whatever you desire. I actually put one group's collection (8 albums), on ONE MP3 CD. That's like having and 8 disc changer as opposed to 6!
Finally, I installed the unit myself saving labor cost per the instructions mentioned earlier and purchased it from trussvillemazda.com for about $280. I turned around and sold the 6-disc changer for $250! (the car was only 1 month old at the time). Where else can you get a mod with so many upsides for $30???

Sorry to rant....
 

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So I have read conflicting reports about the functionality of the MP3 player.

1) If you skip to the next track while in random/shuffle mode, it turns shuffle/random mode off?

2) Random/shuffle mode will only play randomly within the root, or within a single directory, but not throughout a disc with many directories?

These are very important questions I really need answered before I get my 2005 6 Sport Wagon...
 

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1) Yes
2) Yes

And as for any news about the ID3 tags...haven't heard anything from my dealer either. Although I sincerely doubt I'm the first person they'd call :) I have to ask about this the next time I bring my car in for a check.
 

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man. how lame. finally get an in-dash stock mp3 option and it can't even do simple things my $30 portable mp3 cd player can do.
 

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Originally posted by mazdahatch@Sep 19 2004, 05:34 AM
FEATURES
Now, a few notes on features of the Mazda MP3 CD player:

If you have any questions the best thing to do is to hop on down
to your Mazda dealer with a few CDs and locate an MP3-equipped
Mazda6 that you can play with.  Barring this, I'll share some things
that I couldn't find info about online or from any Mazda literature.

BRAND
The MP3 CD player was branded "Pioneer" as expected. The
CD player and radio units from the car were branded "FMS"
though, not "Pioneer".  The story: "FMS" stands for "Ford,
Mazda, Sanyo" which was a jointly-formed company in 1990.
Today Sanyo completely owns FMS.  For the Mazda6, the
radios seem to have been designed by Pioneer but are
manufactured by FMS in Malaysia. At least one member has
also reported to have a component branded with "Matsushita"
(parent company of Panasonic, Technics and Quasar, to name
a few).

Build quality seems good and the units appear quite solid,
just as you'd expect since Mazda cares more about stuff
lasting through the warranty period and than about peak
audio performance.

TRACK ARRANGEMENT
Each directory and each subdirectory is treated as if it were a
different CD in a huge CD changer.  Got 40 directories?  The
radio acts as if you have a CD changer with 40 different CDs. 
Use the disc-advance buttons on the radio to jump between
different directories. The radio browses directories in order
starting with the first root directory (usually the first alphabetically)
followed by each subdirectory of that directory, then the second
root directory etc. You may have up to 253 total directories
with up to 255 MP3 tracks in each directory. You are allowed
up to 8 subdirectory levels.  Any files without a ".MP3" filename
extension will be ignored.

ID3 TAG INFO
Yup, it reads ID3 tags but only "TRACK, ALBUM, ARTIST" portions
encoded in ID3 versions 1.0 or 1.1.  And of that, it displays only
the first 10 characters on the LED display.  You can use the station
tuning knob (the right knob) to scroll through the full text but there
is no way to set the radio to "auto scroll" text when the title is longer
than 10 characters. The radio truncates all info at 30 characters.

FILENAME INFO
You have the option of displaying disc+track+time info, ID3 info,
directory name or filename. Again, you've got that 10 character
LED display limit with a max of 30 characters via scrolling with the
radio's TUNING knob...

CD-R vs CD-RW
Yea! The unit can play both CD-R discs and CD-RW discs.  My
MP3 unit had a "January 2003" date on it so I'm pretty sure ALL
of the MP3 units you're likely to get ahold of can read both types
of discs.  You can use CD-R and CD-RW discs for both MP3
music discs or as regular CD audio discs.

STARTUP LAG TIME
The first time you insert a disc the player spends many seconds
(about 5 to 10) reading the track info.  After that navigation is
pretty quick - it's nearly as fast as a regular CD.  The more
subdirectory levels you have (up to 8 levels deep max) the
longer you'll have to wait for startup when first inserting a disc.

STARTUP PLACE
Just like a regular CD, if you turned off the unit in the middle of
a track the unit will start right at the place it stopped.  This is a
big deal if you're listening to MP3 audio books and each track is
30 minutes long...

SUPPORTED FORMATS
- CDs recorded using: ISO 9660 Level 1 or 2, Joilet or Romeo.
- Multi-session discs up to 99 sessions.
- MP3 sampling frequencies: 16/22.05/24/32/44.1/48 kHz.
- MP3 bit rates from 8 kbps up to 320 kbps.
- CDDA discs will only play the musical data, not the MP3 data.
- Does not support packet-written discs.
- Does not support MP3i or MP3Pro.
- Does not play mixed-mode CDs.

So far I still haven't tried out a variable bitrate disc so I can't say
how well it will work, if at all.
I'll update as I learn more and, hopefully, get around to throwing
this info and more into a webpage with pics and links.

-mazdahatch
http://digitalKnowHow.com
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Hi!
I recently replaced my CD player by one MP3. Your post helped me a lot. Thank you! My MP3 reader is a Pioneer CDS-4077. It works fine, but I can' see MP3 ID's.
I made a lot of disks, but I only read 'CD' + dir# and song#. I tried to get informations from Mazda Belgium, but they don't have anything! Do you think there is documentation available in USA? Thank you again!
Pierre Belgium





Originally posted by mazdahatch@Sep 19 2004, 05:34 AM
FEATURES
Now, a few notes on features of the Mazda MP3 CD player:

If you have any questions the best thing to do is to hop on down
to your Mazda dealer with a few CDs and locate an MP3-equipped
Mazda6 that you can play with.  Barring this, I'll share some things
that I couldn't find info about online or from any Mazda literature.

BRAND
The MP3 CD player was branded "Pioneer" as expected. The
CD player and radio units from the car were branded "FMS"
though, not "Pioneer".  The story: "FMS" stands for "Ford,
Mazda, Sanyo" which was a jointly-formed company in 1990.
Today Sanyo completely owns FMS.  For the Mazda6, the
radios seem to have been designed by Pioneer but are
manufactured by FMS in Malaysia. At least one member has
also reported to have a component branded with "Matsushita"
(parent company of Panasonic, Technics and Quasar, to name
a few).

Build quality seems good and the units appear quite solid,
just as you'd expect since Mazda cares more about stuff
lasting through the warranty period and than about peak
audio performance.

TRACK ARRANGEMENT
Each directory and each subdirectory is treated as if it were a
different CD in a huge CD changer.  Got 40 directories?  The
radio acts as if you have a CD changer with 40 different CDs. 
Use the disc-advance buttons on the radio to jump between
different directories. The radio browses directories in order
starting with the first root directory (usually the first alphabetically)
followed by each subdirectory of that directory, then the second
root directory etc. You may have up to 253 total directories
with up to 255 MP3 tracks in each directory. You are allowed
up to 8 subdirectory levels.  Any files without a ".MP3" filename
extension will be ignored.

ID3 TAG INFO
Yup, it reads ID3 tags but only "TRACK, ALBUM, ARTIST" portions
encoded in ID3 versions 1.0 or 1.1.  And of that, it displays only
the first 10 characters on the LED display.  You can use the station
tuning knob (the right knob) to scroll through the full text but there
is no way to set the radio to "auto scroll" text when the title is longer
than 10 characters. The radio truncates all info at 30 characters.

FILENAME INFO
You have the option of displaying disc+track+time info, ID3 info,
directory name or filename. Again, you've got that 10 character
LED display limit with a max of 30 characters via scrolling with the
radio's TUNING knob...

CD-R vs CD-RW
Yea! The unit can play both CD-R discs and CD-RW discs.  My
MP3 unit had a "January 2003" date on it so I'm pretty sure ALL
of the MP3 units you're likely to get ahold of can read both types
of discs.  You can use CD-R and CD-RW discs for both MP3
music discs or as regular CD audio discs.

STARTUP LAG TIME
The first time you insert a disc the player spends many seconds
(about 5 to 10) reading the track info.  After that navigation is
pretty quick - it's nearly as fast as a regular CD.  The more
subdirectory levels you have (up to 8 levels deep max) the
longer you'll have to wait for startup when first inserting a disc.

STARTUP PLACE
Just like a regular CD, if you turned off the unit in the middle of
a track the unit will start right at the place it stopped.  This is a
big deal if you're listening to MP3 audio books and each track is
30 minutes long...

SUPPORTED FORMATS
- CDs recorded using: ISO 9660 Level 1 or 2, Joilet or Romeo.
- Multi-session discs up to 99 sessions.
- MP3 sampling frequencies: 16/22.05/24/32/44.1/48 kHz.
- MP3 bit rates from 8 kbps up to 320 kbps.
- CDDA discs will only play the musical data, not the MP3 data.
- Does not support packet-written discs.
- Does not support MP3i or MP3Pro.
- Does not play mixed-mode CDs.

So far I still haven't tried out a variable bitrate disc so I can't say
how well it will work, if at all.
I'll update as I learn more and, hopefully, get around to throwing
this info and more into a webpage with pics and links.

-mazdahatch
http://digitalKnowHow.com
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I am considering the factory MP3 cd player for my 05, but does anyone know if the random function is different on the new MP3 players.

I am holding back because I usually just put a cd in, push random, and let it play. However, I would like it to randomly play songs without me having to keep pushing the random button. That is so stupid that it won't continuously play random songs. I am hoping maybe the new ones are upgraded so they work like they should. I don't care if it can play randomly through different folders, I can make a cd with only one folder and no subfolders. As long as it would continuously randomly play songs.

I have an Ipod but as of now I don't really like any of the options to hook it up to the factory radio. The auxmod looks promising but I wish it was more readily available.

Anyone know if the new MP3 players work the same way or did they upgrade them.

Anyone have one installed at the dealer? what did they charge for it?
 

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Originally posted by jeff22@May 9 2005, 04:27 AM
I am considering the factory MP3 cd player for my 05, but does anyone know if the random function is different on the new MP3 players.

I am holding back because I usually just put a cd in, push random, and let it play.  However, I would like it to randomly play songs without me having to keep pushing the random button.  That is so stupid that it won't continuously play random songs.  I am hoping maybe the new ones are upgraded so they work like they should.  I don't care if it can play randomly through different folders, I can make a cd with only one folder and no subfolders.  As long as it would continuously randomly play songs.

I have an Ipod but as of now I don't really like any of the options to hook it up to the factory radio.  The auxmod looks promising but I wish it was more readily available.

Anyone know if the new MP3 players work the same way or did they upgrade them.

Anyone have one installed at the dealer?  what did they charge for it?
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From what I've seen, you don't have to continuously press random... you put the disc in, presss random and it plays random tracks unless you hit track forward at which point the random feature is turned off and the player plays in track order.... phew... long sentence :hoho: I think you may have misunderstood when ppl were talking about the random feature.... I must say it's better than the random on the standard 6-stacker... which is inordinately stupid- why would you only have simple random (single disc) instead of stacker random (all six discs) :irate:
 

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Hi!
I have a mazda6 05 and i have problem with my MP3.
My MP3 reader is a Pioneer CDS-4077. It works fine, but I can' see MP3 ID's.
I made a lot of disks, but I only read tracks.
I tried to get informations from Mazda Greece,but they don't have anything!
I need help please.Thank you again.

Ceftelos-Greece
 

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New info:

Took my M6 to the shop today for a 10 000km checkup. I also told them to check if there are any software updates to the headunit available.

(info: I bought my M6 one year ago, they didn't offer the mp3 player but agreed to install a M3 model instead. It works but without mp3 tags/cd text info. Older HU models apparently work just fine with this player, the newer ones don't)

Just got a call from them...there are no updates available, and because the 'new' Mazda6 is coming (with a totally different headunit, of course) the 'old' model is no longer supported or developed. The new M6 might come with an official mp3 option, but the guy was pretty sure it won't work in older M6:s. So I guess we're stuck with no id3-tags forever :(

PS. I guess this is also a health wake-up call for everyone...even in cars, development is fast, new models coming in, and with these integrated stereos and headunits, one can suddenly find owning an out-of-date model which can never be upgraded or changed. What if there is a blue-ray music disc coming out next year (just a hypothetical example), there would be no way to get a player like that anymore, it would be available for new models only.

Also, cars usually have a lifespan of 20-30 years (at least here in Finland, with the oldest cars in EU...) how well can we expect to get spares for broken HUs etc..? If one unit model lasts 2-3 years max there won't really be way for manufacturers to keep any spares around, is there?
 

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Originally posted by mazdahatch@Sep 19 2004, 09:34 AM
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ID3 TAG INFO
Yup, it reads ID3 tags but only "TRACK, ALBUM, ARTIST" portions
encoded in ID3 versions 1.0 or 1.1.  And of that, it displays only
the first 10 characters on the LED display.  You can use the station
tuning knob (the right knob) to scroll through the full text but there
is no way to set the radio to "auto scroll" text when the title is longer
than 10 characters. The radio truncates all info at 30 characters.

FILENAME INFO
You have the option of displaying disc+track+time info, ID3 info,
directory name or filename. Again, you've got that 10 character
LED display limit with a max of 30 characters via scrolling with the
radio's TUNING knob...

Hi there, You just mentioned that we have the "option of displaying the disc+track+time info, ID3info, Directory name or filename....... ". Let me know what I should do to scroll between these options. As of today... I can only see the disc+track+time info and nothing else..... I have pressed the Auto-M Disp button many times but the disc+track+time info disappears and after 6 presses it comes back on again.... I recently opened the MP3 player and it is a Pioneer....

Please help.....
 

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Originally posted by cooldude@Jul 9 2005, 09:39 AM
I have pressed the Auto-M Disp button many times but the disc+track+time info disappears and after 6 presses it comes back on again.... I recently opened the MP3 player and it is a Pioneer.... 
Try to press "SEEK" button
 
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