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FEATURES
Now, a few notes on features of the Mazda MP3 CD player:

If you have any questions the best thing to do is to hop on down
to your Mazda dealer with a few CDs and locate an MP3-equipped
Mazda6 that you can play with. Barring this, I'll share some things
that I couldn't find info about online or from any Mazda literature.

BRAND
The MP3 CD player was branded "Pioneer" as expected. The
CD player and radio units from the car were branded "FMS"
though, not "Pioneer". The story: "FMS" stands for "Ford,
Mazda, Sanyo" which was a jointly-formed company in 1990.
Today Sanyo completely owns FMS. For the Mazda6, the
radios seem to have been designed by Pioneer but are
manufactured by FMS in Malaysia. At least one member has
also reported to have a component branded with "Matsushita"
(parent company of Panasonic, Technics and Quasar, to name
a few).

Build quality seems good and the units appear quite solid,
just as you'd expect since Mazda cares more about stuff
lasting through the warranty period and than about peak
audio performance.

TRACK ARRANGEMENT
Each directory and each subdirectory is treated as if it were a
different CD in a huge CD changer. Got 40 directories? The
radio acts as if you have a CD changer with 40 different CDs.
Use the disc-advance buttons on the radio to jump between
different directories. The radio browses directories in order
starting with the first root directory (usually the first alphabetically)
followed by each subdirectory of that directory, then the second
root directory etc. You may have up to 253 total directories
with up to 255 MP3 tracks in each directory. You are allowed
up to 8 subdirectory levels. Any files without a ".MP3" filename
extension will be ignored.

ID3 TAG INFO
Yup, it reads ID3 tags but only "TRACK, ALBUM, ARTIST" portions
encoded in ID3 versions 1.0 or 1.1. And of that, it displays only
the first 10 characters on the LED display. You can use the station
tuning knob (the right knob) to scroll through the full text but there
is no way to set the radio to "auto scroll" text when the title is longer
than 10 characters. The radio truncates all info at 30 characters.

FILENAME INFO
You have the option of displaying disc+track+time info, ID3 info,
directory name or filename. Again, you've got that 10 character
LED display limit with a max of 30 characters via scrolling with the
radio's TUNING knob...

CD-R vs CD-RW
Yea! The unit can play both CD-R discs and CD-RW discs. My
MP3 unit had a "January 2003" date on it so I'm pretty sure ALL
of the MP3 units you're likely to get ahold of can read both types
of discs. You can use CD-R and CD-RW discs for both MP3
music discs or as regular CD audio discs.

STARTUP LAG TIME
The first time you insert a disc the player spends many seconds
(about 5 to 10) reading the track info. After that navigation is
pretty quick - it's nearly as fast as a regular CD. The more
subdirectory levels you have (up to 8 levels deep max) the
longer you'll have to wait for startup when first inserting a disc.

STARTUP PLACE
Just like a regular CD, if you turned off the unit in the middle of
a track the unit will start right at the place it stopped. This is a
big deal if you're listening to MP3 audio books and each track is
30 minutes long...

SUPPORTED FORMATS
- CDs recorded using: ISO 9660 Level 1 or 2, Joilet or Romeo.
- Multi-session discs up to 99 sessions.
- MP3 sampling frequencies: 16/22.05/24/32/44.1/48 kHz.
- MP3 bit rates from 8 kbps up to 320 kbps.
- CDDA discs will only play the musical data, not the MP3 data.
- Does not support packet-written discs.
- Does not support MP3i or MP3Pro.
- Does not play mixed-mode CDs.

So far I still haven't tried out a variable bitrate disc so I can't say
how well it will work, if at all.



I'll update as I learn more and, hopefully, get around to throwing
this info and more into a webpage with pics and links.

-mazdahatch
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Would this be the same procedure for replacing the 6CD changer with the MP3-CD head?
 

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The MP3 player trim piece seems like it has two buttons on it - one on either side of the CD slot. Is this true? What does the other button do? If there are in fact two buttons on the MP3 trim, wouldn't that mean you would need it if upgrading from the stock CD player?
 

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Originally posted by rahul320@Sep 25 2004, 11:29 AM
The MP3 player trim piece seems like it has two buttons on it - one on either side of the CD slot. Is this true? What does the other button do? If there are in fact two buttons on the MP3 trim, wouldn't that mean you would need it if upgrading from the stock CD player?
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No - there is still only the one EJECT button on the right side of the CD slot. I did, however,
determine why Mazda requires the trim panel:
the MP3 player owner's manual is packaged
with the trim panel, not with the actual MP3 CD unit. The same is true for the 6-disc changer,
the cassette unit and the minidisc unit. There are also partially-helpful instructions for
removing the center dash panel for installation. I say "partially-helpful" since the instructions
are rather vague in comparison to Sigma's posting on the subject.

Here are a few pics of the MP3 trim panel that you absolutely don't need (unless
you want a $16 owner's manual) when upgrading from the stock non-MP3 CD player:

MP3 trim panel (about $16)






Notice on the back that the right side has a hinging plastic switch but
the left side is blank (no button). This is identical to the stock CD
trimplate so you do NOT have to buy the MP3 trimplate in order to
install or use the MP3 unit...

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sorry currently I don't have time to go down to the dealership can you please tell me did they fix the random play option so that when you hit advance song it advances to the next RANDOM song and doesn't take you out of random play
 

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Thanks for your reply hatch. I, for some reason, thought the "MP3" logo on the left was a button, but your close up shots cleared that up for me. I went ahead and ordered the mp3 player from finishlineperformance. Ordered it on thursday, got it friday, installed it today and it works pretty well. My only complaint is that it navigation through the various tracks seems slow. Each time I skip from one track to another, there is a one to two second delay while it loads the track. Not a big deal, though. Overall pretty impressed.
 

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Originally posted by rahul320@Oct 3 2004, 01:42 AM
Thanks for your reply hatch. I, for some reason, thought the "MP3" logo on the left was a button, but your close up shots cleared that up for me. I went ahead and ordered the mp3 player from finishlineperformance. Ordered it on thursday, got it friday, installed it today and it works pretty well. My only complaint is that it navigation through the various tracks seems slow. Each time I skip from one track to another, there is a one to two second delay while it loads the track. Not a big deal, though. Overall pretty impressed.
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does random play work ?
 

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Originally posted by too2buff@Oct 2 2004, 07:37 PM
does random play work ?
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random play does NOT work as you want it to. If you in random play and skip a track, random turns off. The build date of my player was Jan 2003.
 

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Originally posted by rahul320@Oct 2 2004, 04:42 PM
Thanks for your reply hatch. I, for some reason, thought the "MP3" logo on the left was a button, but your close up shots cleared that up for me. I went ahead and ordered the mp3 player from finishlineperformance. Ordered it on thursday, got it friday, installed it today and it works pretty well. My only complaint is that it navigation through the various tracks seems slow. Each time I skip from one track to another, there is a one to two second delay while it loads the track. Not a big deal, though. Overall pretty impressed.
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Any other tips for installing? I just got mine today from Finishline.
Did you remove the 6-disk changer? I got the face kit and the instructions are vague, the links above are very useful.
 

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Hi Hutch,

I am a new guy from HKG, and would like to know what exact MP3 player (Hardware Model and Any Photo.... Thx) you bought and where can I get it if I would like to purchase it. Many Many Thx.
 

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Originally posted by amf4145@Oct 6 2004, 03:09 AM
Any other tips for installing?  I just got mine today from Finishline. 
Did you remove the 6-disk changer?  I got the face kit and the instructions are vague, the links above are very useful.
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Yep, you have to remove your existing cd player, they cannot coexist. I don't think you'll have any problem installing, the instructions here were very good.
 

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Originally posted by rahul320@Oct 7 2004, 01:55 AM
Yep, you have to remove your existing cd player, they cannot coexist. I don't think you'll have any problem installing, the instructions here were very good.
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Hi, I am interested in the product as I finally find the MP3 player from finishlineperformance, however, the information they provided is limited. Would you mind to tell how many disc can the player contains? Can the MP3 player support CD as well? How about the operation of buttons on the steering wheel, e.g. Select track, switch between FM/MP3 Player and etc.?

Your response is very much appreciated.
 

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Originally posted by rahul320@Oct 7 2004, 01:55 AM
Yep, you have to remove your existing cd player, they cannot coexist. I don't think you'll have any problem installing, the instructions here were very good.
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Hi, I am interested in the product as I finally find the MP3 player from finishlineperformance, however, the information they provided is limited. Would you mind to tell how many disc can the player contains? Can the MP3 player support CD as well? How about the operation of buttons on the steering wheel, e.g. Select track, switch between FM/MP3 Player and etc.?

Your response is very much appreciated.
 

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Originally posted by Querier@Oct 7 2004, 02:42 AM
Hi, I am interested in the product as I finally find the MP3 player from finishlineperformance, however, the information they provided is limited. Would you mind to tell how many disc can the player contains? Can the MP3 player support CD as well? How about the operation of buttons on the steering wheel, e.g. Select track, switch between FM/MP3 Player and etc.?

Your response is very much appreciated.
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It's all covered in the first post by mazdahatch. It can only hold one cd at a time. MP3s are played off the cd, so you need a cd burned on your computer for it to work.
 

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Originally posted by rahul320@Oct 6 2004, 10:56 PM
It's all covered in the first post by mazdahatch. It can only hold one cd at a time. MP3s are played off the cd, so you need a cd burned on your computer for it to work.
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Adding to rahul320's reply:

The MP3 player is just an upgraded single-CD player that plays regular
audio CDs as well as "MP3 CDs" that you can make yourself using a home
computer with a CD burner, as rahul320 said. You retain the stock stereo
and the all the functionality of the steering wheel controls -- only the CD
unit itself changes.

All of the steering wheel controls function with MP3 CDs and can be used
to operate volume, mute and to navigate songs when using an MP3 CD.

Besides adding the ability to play CDs with MP3s, nothing is any different
about the MP3 CD player than the stock single-disc CD player that comes
standard in the Mazda6.

-mazdahatch
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Originally posted by mazdahatch@Oct 8 2004, 01:09 PM
Adding to rahul320's reply:

The MP3 player is just an upgraded single-CD player that plays regular
audio CDs as well as "MP3 CDs" that you can make yourself using a home
computer with a CD burner, as rahul320 said.  You retain the stock stereo
and the all the functionality of the steering wheel controls -- only the CD
unit itself changes.

All of the steering wheel controls function with MP3 CDs and can be used
to operate volume, mute and to navigate songs when using an MP3 CD.

Besides adding the ability to play CDs with MP3s, nothing is any different
about the MP3 CD player than the stock single-disc CD player that comes
standard in the Mazda6.

-mazdahatch
<a href=\'http://digitalKnowHow.com/deals\' target=\'_blank\'>http://digitalKnowHow.com</a>
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Thanks Hatch & rahul320. Yesterday night I removed the head unit and cd changer from the panel. They were made by Panasonic (Matsushita). As observed, those connectors/interfaces were proprietary. I will post the photos here very soon, and would like to ask all you to have a look and comment as if the interface of my head unit can integrated with the MP3 player. Thanks in advance.
 

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Originally posted by Querier@Oct 9 2004, 09:33 AM
Thanks Hatch & rahul320. Yesterday night I removed the head unit and cd changer from the panel. They were made by Panasonic (Matsushita). As observed, those connectors/interfaces were proprietary. I will post the photos here very soon, and would like to ask all you to have a look and comment as if the interface of my head unit can integrated with the MP3 player. Thanks in advance.
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Querier-
When you make your next post please include the following:
- year and model of your car
- pics of labels showing "Matsushita", model numbers, etc
- pics of head unit and cd changer connected together and also separated

thanks!
-mazdahatch
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Originally posted by mazdahatch@Oct 10 2004, 11:39 AM
Querier-
When you make your next post please include the following:
- year and model of your car
- pics of labels showing "Matsushita", model numbers, etc
- pics of head unit and cd changer connected together and also separated

thanks!
-mazdahatch
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Hi, Here are the information for your reference.

- 2003 Mazda 6 Sedan
- About the photo, I am in trouble to attach the photo here coz the total file size is over 3MB. Any other way to transfer the files to you.

By the way, thx in advance for helping me checking the compatibility of the MP3 player with my headunit.
 
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