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Hey. I bought an 04 6s sedan a couple months back with 117k on the dial. I switched to synthetic oil the day I bought it, and a couple weeks later, my oil light cam eon saying I am low. I was 3 quarts down. Filled it back up, checked for leaks and found nothing. PCV seems to be alright, but idk for sure. In the 2 months I've owned it, the #3 cylinder has has 2 misfire episodes, and the #1 cylinder has had a single episode. The first time, #3 and #1 were fine after I replaced coils. All the plugs are new. Now, this second time, the #3 cylinder is misfiring again and the new coil did nothing. I pulled the intake manifold to find a gasket missing, so I replaced them all. I just put it back together, now it is running worse than ever. Missing at idle, bouncing the rpm between 1k and 1400 rpm and won't idle less than that. Has no power at all in any gear. I do have three broken manifold bolts that wont tighten down, but they are not next to each other, so it should still be tight enough. I'm freaking out that the cat melted or something, but I know so little about these engines. My mechanic friend said its most likely an unmetered air issue after spraying some WD40 at it and watching it suck through the manifold, but that was before the gaskets. Idk what to do. I just bought this car to replace my other car that died. I have horrible luck with motors. I know I have gotten the misfire codes for 300, 303, 301, and my intake lean code due to my Injen CAI. Other than that, I don't think i have any real codes atm. Also, my tsc stays off and the little swerving car traction light is lit. Its like I'm in limp mode or something. Please help.
 

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Update: The gaskets were the problem at the end even though they were fixed. I went to pull the manifold again to figure where I screwed up, took one look, and kicked myself. I smashed the throttle body wiring harness when bolting everything down. I fixed that with some coupler thingies and just seafoamed it. Runs beter than when I bought it. It still has a slight hesitation at 3k rpm, but I haven't taken it out since the seafoam yet and hope that fixes it. Florence (yes I named it after an English rock band) had buttersmooth acceleration when I bought her back in July. I'm hoping this is the end of the nightmarish problems. Eventually I will switch out to headers, but seeing as they aren't a problem atm and I am strapped for cash with two car payments currently, it'll have to wait til the new year.

Speaking of which, anyone need a Saturn Ion 2.4L (SS motor) 5-speed sedan? I owe 7k on it and it runs like a top now. I took it into my buddy's garage last month, and after putting 20 hours of testing on it, says it has no problems whatsoever. I guess I just had a bad tune.
 

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Figured out the BIG issue. The stealership told me they replaced all the spark plugs (and charged me for it), yet when I pulled them and took them to AAP, the guy told me those are straight from factory. Four of them were well worn. The other two were covered in oil from the upper manifold gaskets not being there and the had no center OR side electrode. I ended up replacing with Iridium NGKs and the car feels so different. It was missing in TWO holes and replacing all the plugs woke this car up. I'm worried about its effect on the converters though. All that fuel dumping into the back cat could be deadly. Here's to hoping I pay down some debt and can afford MSDS or CPe headers soon.
 

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Figured out the BIG issue. The stealership told me they replaced all the spark plugs (and charged me for it), yet when I pulled them and took them to AAP, the guy told me those are straight from factory. Four of them were well worn. The other two were covered in oil from the upper manifold gaskets not being there and the had no center OR side electrode. I ended up replacing with Iridium NGKs and the car feels so different. It was missing in TWO holes and replacing all the plugs woke this car up. I'm worried about its effect on the converters though. All that fuel dumping into the back cat could be deadly. Here's to hoping I pay down some debt and can afford MSDS or CPe headers soon.
Daymn!
Good thing you caught that before anymore serious damage could be done (and hopefully there isn't any).
 

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Agreed. It sucks some oil as well, but I can deal with that. Prolly bad PCV.
 
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