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I'm considering making a switch from my Audi A5 quattro to a new Grand Touring Mazda6. Why? Well, two reasons: First, my Audi is a manual transmission car (almost all of my cars have been stick) and I managed to mess up my left knee in a skiing accident late this winter. Here it is approaching August and my knee still hurts whenever I use the clutch pedal. I've been going to therapy for months now, but I'm afraid that I'll need surgery and even then I don't know for sure if my knee will ever be the same.

Anyway, enough whining....as much as I love the A5, I'm also considering going with the 6 because it has four doors. My A5 is obviously a two door car, but the rear seats are basically unusable for anything other than kids or maybe petite women. I also drive an SUV that has plenty of room for passengers, but I'm considering selling that too. If I go back to one car, I'd be better off with a 4-door car.

The Mazda6 has something in common with my A5---I see it as one of the best looking cars on the road. The styling is simply above and beyond most cars with four doors. And my A5 is simply beautiful from any angle.

So here's the thing---do you guys think I'll be happy making this switch? Honestly, I'm torn....I don't know if I'll kick myself later on if I make the switch. The A5 is such an incredibly sweet car to drive! I purchased it new three years ago and it hasn't yet been back to the dealership. That's good for a German car...lol.

BTW, if anyone is wondering about my A5, I'll post some pics below. The car is lightly modified (upgraded turbo, cat-back exhaust, and a tune that allows for just over 20 pounds of boost on the bigger turbo). As it sits right now, it will actually outrun a V8 S5, while still getting more than 30 mpg on the highway.

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Yeah, that's something I might have to really think about. On the other hand, I'm sure the 6 is faster than my SUV....and I don't have any problems driving it due to a lack of power. Maybe less power, but definitely better fuel economy, right?
 

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I jumped to a manual 6 from a 335d (auto as all 335ds are) so I'm going the opposite in terms of the tranny.

You will miss the power from your upgraded A5. However, the 6 has some pretty nice driving dynamics and feels like a more expensive car. I suggest you take a long test drive and put it through the paces to feel it out. I feel the 2.5G is a decent motor with ample torque and a nice mid range. It's not a revver, but it's broad torque band makes it pleasurable. Others have some differing opinions. I think you should definitely check it out.


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I do not think you will be happy with the switch.

At the end of the day, the Mazda 6 is an inexpensive, nice looking, 4cyc front wheel drive economy sedan, has big 19" wheels, and gets great mpg.

It's not a sports sedan, it's not a status symbol, and it's not an over-engineered German tank.

I regret not buying my wife a A4 Quattro 6mt instead of the Mazda6. If you are loyal to Audi, why not buy an A4 or A6?
 

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You'll like the 6, but the power is in a totally different class. It's got power in the lower gears, but I bet that Audi absolutely flies on the highway in comparison.
 

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I do not think you will be happy with the switch.

At the end of the day, the Mazda 6 is an inexpensive, nice looking, 4cyc front wheel drive economy sedan, has big 19" wheels, and gets great mpg.

It's not a sports sedan, it's not a status symbol, and it's not an over-engineered German tank.

I regret not buying my wife a A4 Quattro 6mt instead of the Mazda6. If you are loyal to Audi, why not buy an A4 or A6?
Well, I'm not at all loyal to Audi. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love my A5....but this is my very first Audi. I have never owned one in the past. I honestly didn't buy it because I considered it a status symbol. The styling is what really caught my eye....and then I drove one and fell in love. It is simply a fantastic car to drive, even unmodified.

As for the A4, it's a nice car, but it simply doesn't do much for me when it comes to styling. That may seem funny, since the A4 looks similar to the A5. But the fact of the matter is that the A5 has so much more road presence, It looks so low and wide compared to the A4....and the extra two doors don't help either. The Mazda6 looks fantastic to my eyes, despite the fact that it has four doors.

The A6 is nice, but I don't want to spend that kind of coin. And if money wasn't an issue and I wanted to stick with Audi, I'd probably go with an RS7, but then we're talking a BIG car, but it sure is sleek looking.
 

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BTW, I used to have a Mazda MX-6 LS, 5-speed manual. I loved that car too....

It looked a lot like this one, minus the RX-7 wheels. I don't have a digital pic of mine, but it had a nice set of Borbet wheels on it. I'll have to dig up some of my old pics and scan them.

 

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My last car was an '07 BMW 328i. I really enjoyed that car, but was putting 30+k miles on it per year and repair bills were piling up. I wanted a top of the line featured car, and to do it again with BMW was about 20k above a similarly equipped (most people forget that point when comparing cars like the Mazda6 to luxury brands) Mazda6.

Am I happy with the switch? Yes and no. My commute has gone way down, but for the daily freeway grind I was happy. Now for short drives I find the Mz6 has a crappier turning radius (u turns are allowed here and I need an extra lane), is getting some concerning rattles for its age, and allows both music inside to travel out a bit much, but also doesn't isolate me well from cars next to me in traffic.

I'm also in the process of moving to Portland, OR, and the roads there seem to make a lot of noise on the freeway, including extremely excessive rattling. Some of that might be tire noise, so when my tires have had it, I'm definitely going a different way. I'm actually purposefully not rotating my tires to help the cause. :)

All of this said, the technology in the car is great outside of the HU which if you don't use an iPhone and keep it on BT isn't bad (and I meet both requirements). The style is awesome, and at least for me, the seats are very comfortable. The mileage for me has been amazing. Back and forth from Portland, I average 38 MPG at around 75 MPH avg. (I do have i-Eloop).

In the end it depends on priorities. This car is slower than my BMW, which was slower than my G35, which would be slower than your car. Since you brought up the point of acceleration as something you like in your car, I'd steer clear. Good luck.
 

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If looks are your only criteria for choosing a car, you will be disappointd.

If you have other criteria as well, you will be sorely disappointed.

There's only one way to know for sure. Get raped in the trade, and see how you feel about it the next day, month, year.
 

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Audi = lease, Mazda = own. German cars traditionally are not going to be reliable over time (occasional exceptions) though they are improving. Regretting a 6 for looks? I don't understand that one. Some lightly modified 6's on here look so much better than many upper end cars on the road I see.
 

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Your Audi is gorgeous btw. See if there is a rental agency that has the 6 in their fleet and do a full day of test driving. That should settle things. Here are some common praises and complaints from our members here:
Pros
Exterior Styling
Mileage
Handling
Decent power in most situations
Comfortable
Transmission

Cons
Head Unit is buggy
Road/Wind Noise
Not enough power (by some)
Questionable interior durability

Some of those things you can pay attention to on your drive.
 

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If looks are your only criteria for choosing a car, you will be disappointd.

If you have other criteria as well, you will be sorely disappointed.

There's only one way to know for sure. Get raped in the trade, and see how you feel about it the next day, month, year.
Huh? The styling of a car is obviously important to me, but it takes more than that for me to pull the trigger. Like I said, the styling of my Audi is what caught my eye. Then I got behind the wheel and loved the way it drove. I haven't yet driven the 6, but the styling is again what caught my eye. Plus, its very fuel efficient and its not too expensive. If it drives anywhere near as good as it looks, I'll probably be happy. Why do you think I'd be disappointed? At this point, the looks are the one thing I know for certain that is not disappointing.

BTW, the trade-in value of my A5 is right around $30k, which is about the MSRP of a Mazda6 Grand Touring. I probably won't trade, but if I did, I could probably drive away with a new 6 without spending a dime.
 

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Audi = lease, Mazda = own. German cars traditionally are not going to be reliable over time (occasional exceptions) though they are improving. Regretting a 6 for looks? I don't understand that one. Some lightly modified 6's on here look so much better than many upper end cars on the road I see.
The A5 is my first Audi, but I've had a few different German cars over the years and they've all been excellent cars. I never lease cars; I only purchase them. You might be surprised to know at Audi now ranks up there with Toyota and Honda in reliability, at least according to Consumer Reports magazine. All I can say is that my car has been perfect so far.
 

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Your Audi is gorgeous btw. See if there is a rental agency that has the 6 in their fleet and do a full day of test driving. That should settle things. Here are some common praises and complaints from our members here:
Pros
Exterior Styling
Mileage
Handling
Decent power in most situations
Comfortable
Transmission

Cons
Head Unit is buggy
Road/Wind Noise
Not enough power (by some)
Questionable interior durability

Some of those things you can pay attention to on your drive.
That's a really good idea. I didn't even consider trying to find one as a rental. Do any of you guys know who might rent the 6?
 

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I've owed both Volkswagen and Audi they both were pieces of shits.. My 1998 A4 was probably the biggest headache I've ever had. If anyone says their Audi's been reliable, they probably never owned it long enough.
 

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It's hard to make a fair comparison. Both look great, but the A5 is a true sports coupe with more power and torque plus AWD. On the other hand, the Mazda6 is a FWD family sedan with less power but better fuel efficiency and also a lot of nice features for the price with the GT trim.

What you'll get with the 6 is more space, easier drivability in your case, more money saved on gas, but the trade-off is less performance than your current car. You'll just have to test drive it to see how you like it.
 

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I've owed both Volkswagen and Audi they both were pieces of shits.. My 1998 A4 was probably the biggest headache I've ever had. If anyone says their Audi's been reliable, they probably never owned it long enough.
1998? That's a car from 16 years ago. If you think that's relevant today, I can only tell you to do some research and you'll see just how much they have improved.
 
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