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How-To: Mazdaspeed6 Replace Pads and Rotors

To begin, I decided to completely upgrade my brake system, considering that my car will do some track time this summer. If you are planning on doing all that I did, make sure that you have plenty of time, brake jobs can be very time consuming. If this is your first brake job, all I have to say is good luck and I hope that you find this how-to helpful. I’m ASE certified in brakes, and I’ve done a lot of brake jobs on many types of cars. If you are having any troubles or have some questions, shoot me a pm, I’d be glad to help.

Difficulty for just pad and rotor replacement = 5
Cost total = $400+

New parts! Thanks go to Mark at SU

Tools needed for just pad and rotor replacement + why?:

Jack + jack stands – lift car

21mm socket wrench/or impact gun – remove wheels

7mm hex head wrench – front caliper guide pins

17mm socket wrench – front caliper bracket

Needle nose pliers – front caliper retaining clip, depress rear caliper
pistons(the method I used)

C-clamp – depress front caliper pistons

14mm socket wrench – rear caliper guide pins, bracket, e-brake bracket

10mm brake wrench – rear caliper bleeder

9mm brake wrench – front caliper bleeder

Huge Phelps head screw driver – remove rotor screws. Note: If you can’t get these out, (and you most likely will not, I tried everything, including a torch) use a power drill + various size bits to drill out the rotor screws.

Recommended supplies needed for just pad and rotor replacement + why?:


Brake-clean – to clean all friction mating surfaces

Caliper guide pin lube – self explanatory

Brake fluid DOT3 or DOT4 – you will want to bleed the brakes

A friend – to help bleed the brakes(these are hard to find. If no friends exist, buy a brake bleeder thingy)

A bolt – to push rotor off hub(I don’t know the type, but one of the brake line bracket bolts will work)

Rubber hammer – to free rotor from hub

Gloves – this is a very dirty job

Let’s get started! Pad and rotor replacement:
1. Jack up the car, find a good spot for the jack stands(I used the inner car frame), remove the wheels. Note: If you do not know how to support a car safely in the air, stop now and go to a mechanic.


2. Locate and remove the 2 hexbolt guide pins on the rear of the front calipers, you will have to remove the dust caps to access these.

3. Remove the metal spring clip thing.

4. Remove the caliper. Once it is off the hub, you can depress the piston; use the old pad for a flat clamping surface.

5. Remove the pads.
6. Clean the guide pin sleeves in the caliper with brake-clean and paper towels.

7. Locate and remove the 2 caliper bracket bolts, and remove the bracket.

8. Now here comes the fun part. In order to remove the rotor, these screws need to come out. If they do not come out easily, get the drill ready to drill out the screw heads. You really don’t have to replace these screws, the wheel hold the rotor on just fine. With the screws off, remove the rotor. If it won’t come off itself, use a bold in the threaded rotor hole, and screw it in until the rotor brakes free.

9. With the rotor off, inspect and clean the rotor-hub-mating-surface of rust build-up.
10. Install new rotor
11. Install the caliper bracket, making sure the bolts are tight.
12. Place the outer pad on the bracket, and the inner pad into the caliper piston. Note with Hawk HPS pads I had to bend inward on the tabs to get the pad into the piston.(this is an example with the old pads)

13. Now place the caliper onto the bracket and line up the guide pin holes.
14. Clean the guide pins with brake-clean and paper towels.
15. Lube up the guide pins and insert them into the caliper sleeves. Once you have them pressed in, thread the pins into the bracket, and tighten them in. Do not over tighten! Put the dust caps back on.(this is an example with a socket)

16. Install the metal spring clip thing, front brakes are done!

17. Locate and remove this bolt that holds on the e-brake mechanism. Slide the e-brake
mechanism out of its bracket, and set it aside.


18. Remove the 2 caliper guide pin bolts, and remove the caliper.

19. Remove the pads, a flathead screwdriver can help with prying them from the retaining clips.
20. Locate and remove the caliper bracket bolts, and set the bracket aside
21. Remove the 2 rubber guide pin boots, clean the pins and lube them. Then insert them back into the caliper bracket.

22. Remove/Install rotor same as steps 8, 9, 10.
23. Install the caliper bracket, tighten the bolts.
24. Place the new pads in the retaining clips on the caliper bracket.
25. Depress the caliper piston. In order to do this, you have to turn the piston. I used some pliers on the notches in the piston. Turn slowly, so that the piston dust boot does not bind up, gently with your fingers turn the boot back and forth to keep it from binding/ripping. Get it in enough so that it barely fits over the new pads/rotor, then loosen it ¼ turn. Make sure that the notches are vertical/horizontal with the orientation of the caliper, so that it will go on the little stub on the pad.
26. Bolt the caliper on. Do not over tighten!
27. Slide the e-brake mechanism into its bracket. Install the bolt that holds on the e-brake mechanism.
28. Bleed the brakes, make sure everything is on right, and then use brake-clean to clean all friction mating surfaces.


29. Burnish in the pads. Hawk’s instructions are on the box. If you are using different pads do about four 50-30mph firm brake applications.
30. Celebrate, you are done!

Note: if you avoid the cleaning and lubrication of the guide pins as stated in steps 6, 14, 15, 21, you may be susceptible to un-even pad wear. If you avoid steps 28, 29 you could experience noisy brakes and glazed rotors.
Sorry for no how-to on painting the brakes, there are plenty of them out there.

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I just did mine the other day.

I'll just add this. You can also try using a punch and hammer on the phillips screws holding the rotor on. Put the punch right in the middle and give it a few whacks.

I got tired of messing around and just drilled out mine. It's the the massive surface area on the head of the screw that seizes.
 

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QUOTE (franchize @ Mar 14 2009, 12:46 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=1533780
I just did mine the other day.

I'll just add this. You can also try using a punch and hammer on the phillips screws holding the rotor on. Put the punch right in the middle and give it a few whacks.

I got tired of messing around and just drilled out mine. It's the the massive surface area on the head of the screw that seizes.[/b]
One of the many things I tried. I broke 2 screwdrivers and 3 screwdriver drill bits, trying to get those damn things out. With the drill, they were out in minuets.
 

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QUOTE (MSP6COP @ Mar 13 2009, 10:55 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=1533614<div class='quotemain'>Well at least his first post wasn't something lame. I'll take this KINGSFORD</span></span> lately. :yesnod:
 

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I love this mod. Calipers and rotors are always a fun and awesomely greasy one to do :yesnod:

However, whatever size rotors you are using, I can't stress the point that you should pleeeease do some research before you try fitting it all. Not all calipers fit all rotors. A braket for the calipers may be necessary with particular rotors. Check before you buy anything as some shops only sell the brakets as a kit with rotors.

Awesome write-up. I will be doing my own some time in future.
 

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Awesome DYI write up! I have a question though. You stress not to over tighten when bolting the caliper back on. About how my ft/lbs of torque should you use?
 

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So, if your just replacing the pads, do you need to bleed the brakes? I haven't before when just replacing the pads.

Thanks,
Mike

PS Recommended replacement pads? (06 Speed6)
 

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No, you do not need to bleed the brakes. Only if your chainging fluids or removing the calipers. You dont need to take off the calipers either for pad or rotor change.

Make sure you take off the cap for the brake fluid because you will still have to press the caliper piston in. Depending on how much fluid you have in there, you might need to pump the brakes after each pad.

Popular choices are EBC, Hawk, Rotora, and AutoEXE. I have not heard any bad reviews for any of these for the speed. I personally have posiquiets. Just depends on what you want and what your needs are

OP- Some of those first pics make you car look like that spicy orange from the MSP. lol
 

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Kool i just got my EBC (red stuff) brake pads today and will be installing them... some one mention that you can still change the brakes pads without unbolting the Calipers??? How would you do that???
 

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QUOTE (thabigo @ Apr 9 2009, 04:14 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=1545298
Kool i just got my EBC (red stuff) brake pads today and will be installing them... some one mention that you can still change the brakes pads without unbolting the Calipers??? How would you do that???[/b]
they meant like w/o taking the caliper off the brake line.
 

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QUOTE (thabigo @ Apr 9 2009, 04:14 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=1545298
some one mention that you can still change the brakes pads without unbolting the Calipers???[/b]
Not on this car. There are brake setups that allow the pads to be swapped without removing calipers, but this isn't one of them.
 

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oh ok gotcha, yea i noticed that yesturday when i changed my pads out lol. The rears were fun... suppose to be easy, would of been if i didn't spend 30 mins trying to push in the piston with a c-clamp instead of twisting it like i was suppose to....
 

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QUOTE (MATT DAMOND @ Mar 15 2009, 03:42 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=1533963
One of the many things I tried. I broke 2 screwdrivers and 3 screwdriver drill bits, trying to get those damn things out. With the drill, they were out in minuets.[/b]
An impact screwdriver is the correct tool for the job, and much easier than drilling the screws out in step #8. =)
 

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I just wanted to add Torque Specs for the various bolts, etc (taken from the 2007 FSM for L3 w/ TC - Speed6)

For the front: Torque these 17mm bolts to 57.9-75.1 ft/lb (78.4-101.9 N*m), and the 7mm bolts for the slide pin to 19-22 ft/lb (25-30 N*m)


For the rear: The bolts for the brackets should be torqued to 37.7-49.1 ft/lb (51.0-66.7 N*m) and the caliper glide bolts to 16-23 ft/lb (21.6-31.3 N*m). E-brake bolt should be torqued to 15.9 - 21.6 ft/lb (21.5-29.4 N*m)
 

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Thanks for adding that wk03879!

It's very important to have things torqued down correctly, ESPECIALLY the guide pin bolts.
 

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QUOTE (myarbro1 @ Apr 28 2009, 09:01 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=1553881
An impact screwdriver is the correct tool for the job, and much easier than drilling the screws out in step #8. =)[/b]
After breaking non-impact bits and drilling out 3 screws... I tried the "hammer it" and "impact it" method, which worked perfectly....

1. Take a screw driver and hammer, and strike the screw 3 times.
2. Take a old socket that is larger than the screw head and strike the socket (hence around the screw) 3 times.
3. Attempt impact for a couple seconds.
4. repeat 1-3.

2 rounds of this and both screws came out without breaking my last bit, or stripping the head of the screw.
 

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QUOTE (99 RT Eh @ Jun 7 2009, 03:23 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=1569984
After breaking non-impact bits and drilling out 3 screws... I tried the "hammer it" and "impact it" method, which worked perfectly....

1. Take a screw driver and hammer, and strike the screw 3 times.
2. Take a old socket that is larger than the screw head and strike the socket (hence around the screw) 3 times.
3. Attempt impact for a couple seconds.
4. repeat 1-3.

2 rounds of this and both screws came out without breaking my last bit, or stripping the head of the screw.[/b]
Did anyone drill out the rest of the screw that they first drill out the head of the screw or did they just leave the rest of the screw on the hub? Will it cause any problems if left in? Can u even buy new screws for the rotor and then make sure u put anti-seize compound on it?

PS...just did my front brakes with Red stuff and love them so far.
 

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I'm a little confused about step four. What is the purpose of putting the C clamp on the caliper? What does it accomplish?

Thanks in advance.
 
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