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Decent aftermarket oil filter?

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Anyone know if a decent aftermarket filter for the non turbo, 3rd gen engines? I have a 2017 Mazda 6 and was on the market for oil filters since my warranty is just about out and wanted to do my own maintenance. I read somewhere (don't remember) that our Skyactiv engines have a high flow rate when it comes to the oil and very few aftermarket companies made filters that fit the factory specs. Any recommendations besides the factory filters? I know the current filters superceded the old ones made in Japan and currently use the ones made in Thailand.
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No, I have not had a problem with aftermarket filters.

What is the proposed mechanism by which the presence of an (unnecessary?) ADBV causes trouble?
The ADBV (anti drain back valve) is either a silicone or rubber gasket inside top area of the oil filter. I remember reading somewhere that Mazda said it has to do with flow and that's why WIX designed their filters for these engines under that specification while most others didn't. Pictured here shows an orange ADBV. They can be in different colors and materials like silicone, nitrile rubber, orange, black, blue, etc. The OEM filters do not have these.
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In my previous cars I had no issues with filters mounted vertical with ADBV. Now, some cars were reported to have issues with those valves in the oil filter but rarely ever do you see issues. There was a gentleman that had a FRAM Ultra oil filter in his Mazda 6 and broke down because the ADBV got sucked into the oil pump. He sent the filter back to FRAM for analysis and they concluded that his filter failed and they refunded him for engine repair/replacement which was quick and efficient response. I'm sure many don't have a problem running these filters in their non turbo Skyactiv engines but I was just curious to see if there was concrete knowledge for this design on these engines to use particular filters. Too many default responses on forums like these to just use OEM filters without reasoning. Almost like a parent telling their child, "because I said so".

For me, most of the time I think it's because manufacturers have contracts with certain companies so they push their products hard. Like how Mazda pushes Castrol oil at their dealerships here in the US when you can use any oil that meets their specification in the manual.
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I remember reading somewhere that Mazda said it has to do with flow…

Like how Mazda pushes Castrol oil at their dealerships here in the US when you can use any oil that meets their specification in the manual.
I think you have mentioned the pertinent point(s). If Mazda had a spec that was relevant to the people who are responsible to choose (and often install) oil filters, they’d put it in the manual (there’s no spec for their oil filters, and Mazda themselves offer more than one). If they have an oil filter spec and deliberately hide it from those people (which people are us, the owners), then they assume the liability for any damage caused by their failure to disclose critical functional information to us.

I have no problem with a person choosing to use Mazda filters based upon this perceived uncertainty. That might even be part of their strategy.
I just did my oil change myself today for the first time on this car. The dealership has been doing those free oil changes up until we moved from Texas. They cranked the hell out of the oil filter and drain plug. I had to utilize the old school method of stabbing the filter with a flat head screwdriver to take it off. Surprisingly they installed it with the older PE01 oil filter made in Japan this past March.

I replaced the OEM filter with a WIX 57002 filter instead since it was readily available and without an ADBV. My next oil change I'm going probably use any other filter that has a ADBV and see how it goes unless I come across something that says not to use them. Maybe even do a UOA on this Kirkland 0W-20 oil I picked up from Costco. You can't beat the price of $25 USD for two, one gallon oil jugs.

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I HAD to torque my filter or it leaked. First ive ever seen like it, but i also havent changed oil in years for lack of a garage space and well i make enough money to pay someone.
I HAD to torque my filter or it leaked. First ive ever seen like it, but i also havent changed oil in years for lack of a garage space and well i make enough money to pay someone.
That's good for you. I'll probably be doing most maintenance on my vehicles until I retire. I just hate paying for service that I may or may not get. Not to mention I didn't know they were filling in our Mazda 6 with Castrol oil at the dealership. Nothing wrong with that but it should of been disclosed before the service was done. Plus it just feels good to know that you know what you put in and it was done correctly.
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Sort of a thread revival but does anyone know what size oil filter wrench that fits these filters? They are pretty small compared the ones used on my previous vehicles. By the way I picked up a PE01-14-302A filter made in Mexico. I saw some pictures awhile back that those are indeed made differently than the Thai and Japanese made OEM filters.
I have to hand tighten mine, and yes you need to really crank on it to keep it from dripping. I dont know why, but thats what i had to do the last two times i changed it. Getting it off means you need to destroy it, which isnt an issue since you wont be reusing it.
I just did my oil change myself today for the first time on this car. The dealership has been doing those free oil changes up until we moved from Texas. They cranked the hell out of the oil filter and drain plug. I had to utilize the old school method of stabbing the filter with a flat head screwdriver to take it off. Surprisingly they installed it with the older PE01 oil filter made in Japan this past March.

I replaced the OEM filter with a WIX 57002 filter instead since it was readily available and without an ADBV. My next oil change I'm going probably use any other filter that has a ADBV and see how it goes unless I come across something that says not to use them. Maybe even do a UOA on this Kirkland 0W-20 oil I picked up from Costco. You can't beat the price of $25 USD for two, one gallon oil jugs.

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I would be very surprised if the Kirkland Signature oil didn't turn out to be awesome. I simply trust Costco. They won't put the KS name on something that isn't good.
I would be very surprised if the Kirkland Signature oil didn't turn out to be awesome. I simply trust Costco. They won't put the KS name on something that isn't good.
Believe it or not, the Kirkland oil is the same being sold in Walmart under the Supertech brand. They both have their oils come from Warren Distribution which makes pretty good oil for the price. Hell, a lot of instore brands use Warren and I would be surprised if Auto Zone, Oriellys or another auto part store brand uses then as well.
Anyone know if a decent aftermarket filter for the non turbo, 3rd gen engines? I have a 2017 Mazda 6 and was on the market for oil filters since my warranty is just about out and wanted to do my own maintenance. I read somewhere (don't remember) that our Skyactiv engines have a high flow rate when it comes to the oil and very few aftermarket companies made filters that fit the factory specs. Any recommendations besides the factory filters? I know the current filters superceded the old ones made in Japan and currently use the ones made in Thailand.
I’m getting ready to install a Purolator One that alleges it filters the oil down to 5 microns. Advance Auto with 20% off came to $13.01. I don’t care if I’m buying peace of mind. Hopefully. 😂
I would be very surprised if the Kirkland Signature oil didn't turn out to be awesome. I simply trust Costco. They won't put the KS name on something that isn't good.
Damn, I should have gone to Costco, first. I paid (right at) $24 for my Mobil 1 5w-30 5 quart jug. Oh well, next oil change in 5k miles.
Damn, I should have gone to Costco, first. I paid (right at) $24 for my Mobil 1 5w-30 5 quart jug. Oh well, next oil change in 5k miles.
Unfortunately around my parts, that oil is now on backorder and the price of it has gone up to like $40 for a two gallon pack now. Thanks you inflation. Just did my second oil change know this oil and didn't have any issues with it at least.
Damn, I should have gone to Costco, first. I paid (right at) $24 for my Mobil 1 5w-30 5 quart jug. Oh well, next oil change in 5k miles.
I just did a recent oil change and am now running the Supertech 6607 filter from Walmart. It does have a ADBV and I've did more research and no one else hasn't been having any issues with running with a filter with a ADBV. Many have been doing it with no issue. There was a post about one freak accident of a ADBV getting sucked up into a CX-5 from a FRAM Ultra filter but there really didn't seem to be a legit conclusion on even how it happened. Not to mention the dealership didn't post the original pictures of the car that had the issues and used a different one. Plus, those Supertech filters are made by Champion Labs who also currently make oil filters for Mobil 1.
It does have a ADBV
Why? It literally hangs upside down making it impossible to leak back into the motor.
Why? It literally hangs upside down making it impossible to leak back into the motor.
I was stating it came with one as other many aftermarket filters for these vehicles/engines. It's not cheap nor easily available to get the Japanese or Thai made OEM filters here in Hawaii from the dealership. The ones they did have are the value line made in Mexico and charging $9. These are not sport cars but there's a fine line where I like to draw between reliability/performance and price. I did try the Wix filter before and had no issues with it but they are $10 out here. For the past several years lots of folks on here kept stating to not use an oil filter for these vehicles because OEM didn't spec ADBVs. There's plenty of owners driving around in these cars with filters with ADBV.
Someone help me, here, but don't the Skyactiv-G engines have some oil pump output (flow) electronic control? I wonder if the filter delta-P is a really important parameter associated with the system... and that delta-P would be impacted by filter construction, media tightness, and ADBV cracking pressure... and so Mazda, through their oil filter subcontractor, exercises careful control on those parameters?
The variable-flow oil pumps are supposed to, basically, reduce power consumption by reducing flow when system pressure reaches the pre-programmed level (which may be tied to various additional parameters).

Are you proposing that the pressure sensor for that system is located upstream of the filter?
(I don’t know, or don’t recall, where that sensor is)

That would be an amazingly stupid choice, if that’s where it is.
The variable-flow oil pumps are supposed to, basically, reduce power consumption by reducing flow when system pressure reaches the pre-programmed level (which may be tied to various additional parameters).

Are you proposing that the pressure sensor for that system is located upstream of the filter?
(I don’t know, or don’t recall, where that sensor is)

That would be an amazingly stupid choice, if that’s where it is.
If the sensor were located upstream, Yeah, that'd be stupid as an occluded filter (notwithstanding the filter bypass) would provide erroneous info.

No, I don't know the details of the oil flow control... but in any case, if careful control of oil pump flow is desired to save fuel, then though it's probably of little significance viz fuel savings, having an ADBV (with an associated cracking pressure) in place when it's not needed is counterintuitive for saving fuel.

Is this logical? I have not really thought this matter through much.
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I think I couldn’t estimate what impact it might have on a variable displacement oil pump without some data I don’t have access to. If the pumps are pressure- and flow-compensated (like tractor hydraulic pumps have been for half a century or more), then it wouldn’t make a bit of difference. If they’re ultra-simple, un-compensated affairs with the sensors in the wrong place, then it would (but how much?).

My guess is that the situation looks something like this:
-Mazda determines they can buy filters in bulk for 25 cents less if they don’t specify an ADBV. They also determine that they don’t benefit from them during either the warranty period or ‘design lifespan,’ so they spec without.

-Aftermarket filter companies offer a certain range of filters, and most all of them fit multiple engines and applications. They determine that they’re unlikely to see detrimental effects from the ADBVs in the apps that don’t call for one in the OE filter, so they leave them in to reduce inventory and buy (or make) fewer filters in larger quantities.

Just a guess, but it follows the money pretty well, I think.
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Sage analysis; makes sense, Bulwnkl.

Cheers!
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