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No, I have not had a problem with aftermarket filters.

What is the proposed mechanism by which the presence of an (unnecessary?) ADBV causes trouble?
The ADBV (anti drain back valve) is either a silicone or rubber gasket inside top area of the oil filter. I remember reading somewhere that Mazda said it has to do with flow and that's why WIX designed their filters for these engines under that specification while most others didn't. Pictured here shows an orange ADBV. They can be in different colors and materials like silicone, nitrile rubber, orange, black, blue, etc. The OEM filters do not have these.
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In my previous cars I had no issues with filters mounted vertical with ADBV. Now, some cars were reported to have issues with those valves in the oil filter but rarely ever do you see issues. There was a gentleman that had a FRAM Ultra oil filter in his Mazda 6 and broke down because the ADBV got sucked into the oil pump. He sent the filter back to FRAM for analysis and they concluded that his filter failed and they refunded him for engine repair/replacement which was quick and efficient response. I'm sure many don't have a problem running these filters in their non turbo Skyactiv engines but I was just curious to see if there was concrete knowledge for this design on these engines to use particular filters. Too many default responses on forums like these to just use OEM filters without reasoning. Almost like a parent telling their child, "because I said so".

For me, most of the time I think it's because manufacturers have contracts with certain companies so they push their products hard. Like how Mazda pushes Castrol oil at their dealerships here in the US when you can use any oil that meets their specification in the manual.
 

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I remember reading somewhere that Mazda said it has to do with flow…

Like how Mazda pushes Castrol oil at their dealerships here in the US when you can use any oil that meets their specification in the manual.
I think you have mentioned the pertinent point(s). If Mazda had a spec that was relevant to the people who are responsible to choose (and often install) oil filters, they’d put it in the manual (there’s no spec for their oil filters, and Mazda themselves offer more than one). If they have an oil filter spec and deliberately hide it from those people (which people are us, the owners), then they assume the liability for any damage caused by their failure to disclose critical functional information to us.

I have no problem with a person choosing to use Mazda filters based upon this perceived uncertainty. That might even be part of their strategy.
 

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I just did my oil change myself today for the first time on this car. The dealership has been doing those free oil changes up until we moved from Texas. They cranked the hell out of the oil filter and drain plug. I had to utilize the old school method of stabbing the filter with a flat head screwdriver to take it off. Surprisingly they installed it with the older PE01 oil filter made in Japan this past March.

I replaced the OEM filter with a WIX 57002 filter instead since it was readily available and without an ADBV. My next oil change I'm going probably use any other filter that has a ADBV and see how it goes unless I come across something that says not to use them. Maybe even do a UOA on this Kirkland 0W-20 oil I picked up from Costco. You can't beat the price of $25 USD for two, one gallon oil jugs.

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I HAD to torque my filter or it leaked. First ive ever seen like it, but i also havent changed oil in years for lack of a garage space and well i make enough money to pay someone.
That's good for you. I'll probably be doing most maintenance on my vehicles until I retire. I just hate paying for service that I may or may not get. Not to mention I didn't know they were filling in our Mazda 6 with Castrol oil at the dealership. Nothing wrong with that but it should of been disclosed before the service was done. Plus it just feels good to know that you know what you put in and it was done correctly.
 

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Sort of a thread revival but does anyone know what size oil filter wrench that fits these filters? They are pretty small compared the ones used on my previous vehicles. By the way I picked up a PE01-14-302A filter made in Mexico. I saw some pictures awhile back that those are indeed made differently than the Thai and Japanese made OEM filters.
 

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I just did my oil change myself today for the first time on this car. The dealership has been doing those free oil changes up until we moved from Texas. They cranked the hell out of the oil filter and drain plug. I had to utilize the old school method of stabbing the filter with a flat head screwdriver to take it off. Surprisingly they installed it with the older PE01 oil filter made in Japan this past March.

I replaced the OEM filter with a WIX 57002 filter instead since it was readily available and without an ADBV. My next oil change I'm going probably use any other filter that has a ADBV and see how it goes unless I come across something that says not to use them. Maybe even do a UOA on this Kirkland 0W-20 oil I picked up from Costco. You can't beat the price of $25 USD for two, one gallon oil jugs.

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I would be very surprised if the Kirkland Signature oil didn't turn out to be awesome. I simply trust Costco. They won't put the KS name on something that isn't good.
 
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