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Enlighten me. Besides those listed on TireRack.com, what wheels fit the '6? I've been to a few local stores that couldn't help me due to the abnormal offset of 50mm. Weight and price are my two biggest concerns, so I'm looking to stick to 17" or even 16" wheels.

I've tried searching on my own, and haven't had much luck. So why don't we start a database (of sorts) here, so that we can catalog which wheels fit the 6? List sizes available, weight, offset, price, and a picture if available.
 

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Here are some ADR wheels that are 17x7 with a 48mm offset (50mm Stock) Weight range is 19-21 lbs

ADR wheels


Hypertek


Kasail


Sokudo

I know the Sokudo are also supposed to be available in silver
 

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Most vehicles come standard with around a 50 offset rim. My Protege also did. There's nothing abnormal about that.

The 6 most likely can take anything fron +40 and above. Definitely +45. I've never seen a car that didn't down to +45.
 

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discount tire www.tires.com, has a list of wheels that will fit the M6, they don't have it yet with pictures in there virtual wheel system though. The lightest wheels on the market are from SSR, OZ, Volk and Racing Hart, Enkei and Konig have some light ones as well. I tried the SSR GT1's and I didn't like how they looked, there was to much empty space in the wheels. It will be tough to find any light weight wheels without that problem (for obvious reasons) but there are quite a few in the 19-22lb range. Be careful what tires you put on, as they can be really heavy. Good lightweight 17inch tires ~22lb level (our stock tires are ~22lb) are made by Dunlop (SP 8000's) Toyo (TS-1) Continental (Contisports) and Goodyear (con't remember the model). Bridgestone, Kuhmo, Nitto are more heavy ~24-25lbs in the 17 performance range. Don't put light weight tires on the car and thien give it all back with heavy tires.
 

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Every tire Discount Tire suggests is a +38 to a +40mm offset. The offset, I've read, should be kept with 3mm of stock.

I read up a lot on the subject in the past few days, and have decided to heed this advice. Believe me, if I thought a 40mm offset was ok, I'd get the Enkei RP01's for $119 each- can't beat that for a 17 1/2 pound 17" wheel. It seems like nearly all wheels are 38-42mm offset.

Those ADR wheels are on sale at www.1010tires.com for those interested.
 

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I think you could use a +45mm offset without real adverse effects. On my 95 Miata that had 14" +45mm offset as stock, I ran 15" +40mm rims from a 99'. FWD is a little more touchy but 5mm should be OK.

 

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Oh please.

I ran a 17" with a 205/40 tire at +38offset on my Protege. An offset which was standard of +50.

It's just really difficult to tell. Much better if you can swticharoo with a shop you get them from :D
 

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There is a large difference between "can" and "should".

If looks are all that matter, you could run 0 offset as long as they didn't rub and you don't mind replacing wheel bearings and tires often.

But if you want to maintain the handeling of the car, it's best to keep the stock offset or try to stay as close as possible. There is a very good reason the wheel has a 50mm offset... Scrub Radius.
 

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:D With a 0 offset the wheels wouldn't turn.

I'm thinking about people that have a certain wheel in mind. And really want that style or get a very good deal from a shop on them.

But yes you are right it's not a matter of can but a matter of should. June I'll be trying many different sets and with coilovers. So you'll know by then for sure what you can run with no tire wear problems or rubbing problems.
 

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Steve,

When putting larger wheels on a vehicle, the extra width needs to go
somewhere. Generally, by reducing the offset you can still maintain
clearance to the shock tower. The change from 50mm to 40mm is .4 inches.
Not a large change in the track width of your axle.

Regards,
Bernie

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Joines [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
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Subject: QUESTION FOR SALES FROM WWW.TIRERACK.COM 01/03/03-10:33:49


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Question: I understand that my vehicle's OEM wheels use a 50mm offset.
I've also read that changing the offset by more than a few millimeters
can deminish a car's handling and cause premature wear on the bearings.

Some other wheel web sites still recommend wheels with a 40mm offset for
my car. My local dealers are clueless.

And on your web site, I'm unable to tell exactly what the offset of each
wheel is. I know you guarantee the wheels to fit, but I am more
concerned about harming my vehicle's handling. It appears that you do
recommend wheels near the OEM offset, but I'll need your confirmation on
that.

There are many wheels with a 40mm offset that I do like (and that you
carry); so if this is ok, let me know! It seems that widening the track
would have its benefits as well. However, I just bought this car and
absolutely love the suspension and handling, and do not want to change
the way it handles one bit.

Thanks in advance,

Steve

Year: 2003

Make: Mazda

Model: 6

name: Steve

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.4 of an inch is all you need to cause problems with rubbing.

The width and offset go hand in hand. 7 inch wide you can usually get away with a somewhat lower offset. 7.5 has to be a higher offset. 8 might not even fit at all on a front wheel drive 6.
 

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Once again there is a difference between "recommended/correct" and "available/will fit" wheels on a site like Tires.com and TireRack. Not many companies are producing a wheel with greater then +45mm offset. And no disrespect to Bernie at TireRack but .4 + .4 is a .8 inch increase in track, which is a lot!

If you want to put 8" rims on your car and they rub at 50mm then you need a different offset, but there is no free lunch. Suspension change on a car is a world of compromises. To get one thing you lose something else.

People are free to lower/raise and put whatever wheels they want on their car. But without some understanding of how it affects the car, don't be surprised if it changes the car for the worse.
 

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Tell me about it. Went from 5 inch side to 7 inch wide. And from stock ride height to 1.8 lower in the back, 1.4 in the front. Ride was stiff as hell. But handling was perfect. I didn't mind sacrificing ride quality for near-0 body roll. :D
 

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QUOTE
Originally posted by Kincaid

Ride was stiff as hell. But handling was perfect.[/b]
Aye, but there's the rub. Perfect means different things to different people. To the import/tuner look fans, a car stiff as hell and riding around on the bumpstops may be perfect, to an autocrosser another story.

Oh well, enough preaching....
 

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Steve,

The scrub radius will change slightly with this small offset change
however per our wheel manager, this is well within limits. BMW for
example, has much larger swings in scrub radius when they install their
factory sport package wheel upgrades. To get premature mechanical
failures or to notice differences in handling, you would need to have
much higher offset changes than the 10-15mm we have been discussing.


Regards,
Bernie

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Bernie,

Thanks for the response. I'm not really worried about clearance since I
am going to keep the same width as the OEM tires, which are 17" x 7". I
bought my car with wheel covers- that's why I'm interested in alloys,
not because I want a wider-than-OEM wheel.

I'm interested in the handling charactoristics alone. Are you saying
that the 10mm change in offset won't unbalance the tuning/geometry of
the car? Is that not a noticable change in the car's scrub radius?

I know we're talking about a very small change here, but very small
changes can make all the difference.

Thanks,

Steve
 

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Which kindof makes sense, being that the change in scrub radius is ~ 1/15th the width of the wheel (just to put things in perspective).
 

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Keep in mind. On BMW's he's talking about a negative offset as it would be RWD. This is different from positive offsets.
 

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I'm pretty sure that despite being RWD, BMW's have a positive offset.
 

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You are right. BMW's usually use between +10 - 20 offset.

Pays to do research :D
 
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