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Specifically, anyone think the 6 (pre-turbo) might now be collectable at some point?
Collectable now?
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no. Not even the Speeds are collectible, possibly never were. Widely loved? Certainly. Not a Camry? Sure. Other than that, its a mainstream car.
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I wonder, what makes a car collectible?
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Well, the Dodge Viper has a total of roughly 35,000 units over 25 years and 5 Gens. Chevy puts out about that many vettes per year. So, you tell me which one would be more collectible?
Anecdotally, the vette owners clamour for such exclusivity that they narrow their "like optioned cars" down to things like "this is 1 of 4 made on this day with this color sun visors"
To answer some what seriously, the lowest bar to meet would be limited production overall, which is why i mentioned the Speed6, made only for 2 years and 3500 units (2000 in '06 and 1500 in '07 IIRC). Very few examples remain that remotely look good, let alone run good, have the original motor and arent clapped out cause people didnt take care of them.
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Okay... guess I'll take my ball and go home.....
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The upside though is that a ton of parts are shared with the Mazda3 and CX5... particularly powertrain, brakes.
In 25 years, an excellent condition Mazda6 may sell for 20-30,000. I would suspect people will value a driver’s car. Our Mazdas will be different than anything available much newer. I would guess the turbos would be worth more and manuals may have a higher value as well.
Even if it is worth twice what we paid new, the cost of keeping them in excellent shape with low miles would exceed the appreciation.
For comparison, look at bring a trailer when they have a 25 year old civic with 5,000 miles.
Bottom line drive what meets your needs and don’t worry about the resale price.
Even if it is worth twice what we paid new, the cost of keeping them in excellent shape with low miles would exceed the appreciation.
For comparison, look at bring a trailer when they have a 25 year old civic with 5,000 miles.
Bottom line drive what meets your needs and don’t worry about the resale price.
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Hold on a second though everyone.
Depends on what you mean by collectible.
They only made what, about 6k of these over 2 production years. Many of them have been junked or scrapped at this point. If you're talking about a rare car that's older being a collectible, this fits the bill. The only major difference between the speed6 and something like an Rx7 FC (same-ish production numbers) is that one is much more highly sought after because of its appeal.
Depends on what you mean by collectible.
They only made what, about 6k of these over 2 production years. Many of them have been junked or scrapped at this point. If you're talking about a rare car that's older being a collectible, this fits the bill. The only major difference between the speed6 and something like an Rx7 FC (same-ish production numbers) is that one is much more highly sought after because of its appeal.
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He didnt say the Speed, i did, hes talking the 6 in general cause its being axed. It was 3500 units though. The RX-7 doesnt remotely compare to the 6 in anyway other than the badge, sorry.
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Yeah the regular 6 isn't - could it become one in 50 years? Maybe for some weird reason? Probably not though.
For the speed6 though, rarity alone is enough to be a collectible to the right person. 3,500 units puts the Speed6 at twice as rare as an Aventador, of which they've made over 7000 (including roadsters/etc.).
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I agree, if there were low mileage, pristine condition examples out there, dont think any are left at all. The main reason is the buyers were never taught how to treat a turbo motor when they bought it.
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No you don't! The sun is still up. Pass the ball.
This reminds me of this car being sold at a crazy prize of $49,000!
PM sent: A 2000 Honda Civic SiR is being sold for P2.45 million
That's pretty steep
www.topgear.com.ph
What's with that car? Or rather, what's in the mind of the owner? I've read a comment "defending" the price, that even if you have the money, but where will you buy those original accessories, when it's already discontinued? In essence, he was saying that it's a "rare" car. So he was saying, don't just say I'll just buy a brand new car because this is a "collector's item". At least, that's the way I understand what he's saying.
Still, it's a crazy prize for such a car just making it "rare" by the owner. I doubt the car was even sold.
And yes, I won't buy that car at that price. I'll buy a brand new one. Perhaps I'm not a car guy after all.
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If I may be off topic, again, how do you or how should you treat a car with a T/C? I have one and this is my first car with a T/C.
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Without going into too much dissertation, the two main rules are "dont rev it cold and dont turn it off hot". Its all about the oil temp on startup and you have to idle the car a bit to let the turbo cool down do it doesnt cook the oil into coke.
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Thanks! I should be good. I didn't know about the first one but I don't think I've done it, or if I've done it for a few a times, but we don't have snow so I think, and I hope it doesn't count.
Yeap, it worked with my 1990 Eclipse Turbo, it made past 200,000 miles. It used to burn a qt. of oil every 2k-3k miles. I drove the hell out of that car (once it was warmed up-))
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Uh, cold has nothing to do with snow and everything with an empty turbo needing warm oil to live lol.
Rarity and even low mileage, uniqueness and good condition is not enough to make an old car valuable. I almost bought a Saab Sonnet II in the 1990s. The value is still is about the same today as it was back then.
Memories are as important as rarity. People will remember what great cars we had back in the 20’s and buy the sedans from their youth. They still won’t pay enough to keep it pristine and unused. So use it and enjoy it.
Doubt there will ever be any value in the these things. First gens, for example, are thin on the ground these days but can be had for a song, and I don't think that will change in the foreseeable future. The cars that become valuable are ones that can not be reproduced in the modern era due to emissions/safety requirements, market trends, etc.
I saw a MINT Plymouth Sundance at the grocery store today. When was the last time you saw one of those rolling around? Still not a car worth anything to most people.
I saw a MINT Plymouth Sundance at the grocery store today. When was the last time you saw one of those rolling around? Still not a car worth anything to most people.
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