[michael95350]

The midsize car market is experiencing some contraction lately, especially in the domestic market as both Ford and FCA seriously trim down their passenger car offerings. Out of the ones left, Car and Driver offered a quick review. The Mazda 6 ranked second overall, topped only by the magazine's chronic lust for the Honda Accord. C/D praised the 6's upscale moves and driving dynamics. Their only beef is with rear seat room.


Check out the full review here

 

[ocramida]

The midsize car market is experiencing some contraction lately, especially in the domestic market as both Ford and FCA seriously trim down their passenger car offerings. Out of the ones left, Car and Driver offered a quick review. The Mazda 6 ranked second overall, topped only by the magazine's chronic lust for the Honda Accord. C/D praised the 6's upscale moves and driving dynamics. Their only beef is with rear seat room.


Check out the full review here

Yeah, not surprising. As I've said before I was initally ok with the Accord except for that beak. But as I've seen more in the wild, I'm finding the design to be ugly from every angle. IMO it will not age well.

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[GTEyes]

I can't get over the saggy-looking rear end on the Accord.
I feel like they should have went for a rear end like their new Insight. Much better looking in my opinion.

Yeah, not surprising. As I've said before I was initally ok with the Accord except for that beak. But as I've seen more in the wild, I'm finding the design to be ugly from every angle. IMO it will not age well.

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[Mz6GreyGhost]

IMO it will not age well.

I can agree to that already. The more I see on the road, the more I cringe from it's looks. I can't see how it will look better with age.

I can't get over the saggy-looking rear end on the Accord.
I feel like they should have went for a rear end like their new Insight. Much better looking in my opinion.

Is it odd that I find the Insight soooooo much better-looking than the Accord?

 

[Guest]

I'm going against the grain here...I love the look of the new Accord and applaud Honda for going bold. Also, we're talking about garden variety family sedans here and not exotic collectibles so "aging well" isn't really high on many people's lists. How many of these sedans (Mazda or Honda) will be on the road in 10 or 15 years to be judged as "aging well"? Most will be beat or scrapped in 15 years.

 

[michael95350]

I dunno. I still see a fair amount of 1st gen Mazda 6s on the road and they're 10-16yrs old by now. They've managed to age fairly well. Surprisingly, I don't see too many of the Gen 7 Accords around anymore (2003-2007) or the Gen 8 (2008-2012). Neither of those generations were that pretty to begin with.

 

[Byakuya]

Whenever I see a 1st gen that's been kept clean and has a wing, I am both happy and sad because I miss mine from time to time

 

[dasrider]

I always thought whatever the previous generation Accord was looked pretty decent.


But I agree, the current one just looks ugly. Who am I to judge though? I'm stuck in 2014 and think my 6 still looks current.

 

[Trippp]

I had 6 or 7 Accords over the years and they were great cars. I jumped to Mazda (and didn’t look back) after so many issues with my 2008 Accord coupe. I like the current one well enough. The styling has grown on me, except maybe the rear end. Performance is great for the class of car. The interior is really nice but nothing special or as striking as the 6’s. But the back seat on the Accord could be the winning swing for families. I’ve bonked junior’s head on the roof of the rear seat in the 6 lifting him in and out of his car seat ... oops The Accord’s rear seat is more spacious with a taller roofline. The 6’s back seat is comfortable with plenty of leg room but it’s def cozier. Fortunately the little one can climb in and out on his own now. For me, I’ll take the 6’s handling, good looks and exclusivity over the Acccord any day.

 

[ocramida]

I'm going against the grain here...I love the look of the new Accord and applaud Honda for going bold. Also, we're talking about garden variety family sedans here and not exotic collectibles so "aging well" isn't really high on many people's lists. How many of these sedans (Mazda or Honda) will be on the road in 10 or 15 years to be judged as "aging well"? Most will be beat or scrapped in 15 years.

Eh, sit in the Accord and it feels like a regular midsize sedan. Nothing special (except the manual) but the 6 feels special and more up market. But to each their own. Fewer 6's more exclusivity.

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[LIMazda6]

I had 3xGen3 Mazda6s all around me at once at one point on my commute home yesterday - 2xTouring White and Grey, my Blue and 1 black sport , so much for exclusivity . Seriously, I do see a lot more 6s on the road around here than new Accords, but Mazda's got a few years on Honda. As for styling, I still haven't warmed to the rear of the Accord and prefer the older more upright body-style. Still take the M6 anyday.

 

[Brightshen]

I'm going against the grain here...I love the look of the new Accord and applaud Honda for going bold. Also, we're talking about garden variety family sedans here and not exotic collectibles so "aging well" isn't really high on many people's lists. How many of these sedans (Mazda or Honda) will be on the road in 10 or 15 years to be judged as "aging well"? Most will be beat or scrapped in 15 years.

I see a lot of older (at least 10 years) Mazdas around here in SoCal, they always seem to be very well maintained, definitely, not beaters. Hondas have a place, they are a pragmatic choice, but I don't believe they are loved the way so many Mazdas are. I don't hate the new Accord but it's not for me. I've never been a "car person," but I just love my blue Mazda. There is no other car I would feel that way about, it's a good quality car and it's great looking and fun to drive. I don't care about price or brand status, this car was by choice, not budget. The exception would be this one 6 figure (that's definitely out of my budget) sports car Gwen Stefani owns (I read an article about celebrity cars). I can't even remember what it was, but it was f'ing COOL and I imagine, amazing to drive.

 

[Philip Wing]

2007 Mazda 6 Sport Wagon @RaceSonoma

Sorry, I'll take the bait. Here's my 2007 Mazda 6 Sport Wagon twitter.com/RaceSonoma January 12, 2019: twitch.tv/videos/372043500

This board is being a piece of crap that it won't let me post links. You'll have to copy and paste.

 

[waughoo]

Sorry, I'll take the bait. Here's my 2007 Mazda 6 Sport Wagon twitter.com/RaceSonoma January 12, 2019: twitch.tv/videos/372043500

This board is being a piece of crap that it won't let me post links. You'll have to copy and paste.

@phillip wing when you get your posting permissions sorted out, head over to the Wagon Love thread and throw up a photo of your long top. We are trying to collect as many as possible there.

https://www.google.com/amp/forum.ma...057-wagon-love-post-up-your-photos.html?amp=1

 

[bsandesh]

Is it only me, or am I seeing lot of Mazdas on the road lately? Especially the Mazdas6s and CX-5.Never noticed this before when I had my Camry.
Or may be I only look for Mazda on the road after I got mine.May be its clearance sale for the 2018 models.

 

[ocramida]

Is it only me, or am I seeing lot of Mazdas on the road lately? Especially the Mazdas6s and CX-5.Never noticed this before when I had my Camry.
Or may be I only look for Mazda on the road after I got mine.May be its clearance sale for the 2018 models.

Yeah CX5 is everywhere in MA. As are CX9 and CX3. Next Mazda3 and then maybe the 6. 6 Touring are more prevelant. Have seen maybe one or two 2018 6 in Touring or GT trim.

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[TechZeke]

Here in San Antonio, there are ton's of Mazda 6's but I've only seen 2 other 2018s in the wild. Interesting how many 2nd and even 1st gen Mazda 6's are driving around.

The Accord and Mazda 6 are the epitome of on-paper versus what you actually want.

The 6 doesn't have the most leg room, trunk space, nor does it have a fancy 10-speed transmission; however it has a very nice interior, great driving dynamics, great features, etc. It's the sum of it's parts. Plus, it's not like I haven't been able to comfortably fit 3 other grown men in my Mazda 6.

Normally, seeing things in person make me change my mind. I thought the current Nissan Maxima was ugliest car ever when I first saw it, but now I love the design. However, the Accord's design isn't cohesive from any angle and hasn't grown on me at all.

Overall, I was willing to give up the slight advantages of the Accord for a car that performs as good as it looks, inside and out. With the Mazda 6(especially this Grand Touring Reserve trim), I could've paid MSRP and still feel like I got what I paid for. I wouldn't feel the same way with the Accord.

 

[Mz6GreyGhost]

Just for my information, I built up an Accord on their website, equipping it with the features I have on my Reserve (all the safety features, moonroof, etc.)

Turns out I'd need to specify the 2.0T Touring trim. I also had to spec the rear lip spoiler (which the Reserve has standard).

The difference in cost? I'd have to pay $5800 MORE for the Accord! That's about 20%!!

Are you getting 20% more car for your money? No way!

Plus, at $36K, I'd be looking at the luxury market (Audi/BMW), not a 4-door family sedan.

Sorry, but I just can't justify paying that premium. I can't see how any smart car shopper would.

 

[ocramida]

Just for my information, I built up an Accord on their website, equipping it with the features I have on my Reserve (all the safety features, moonroof, etc.)

Turns out I'd need to specify the 2.0T Touring trim. I also had to spec the rear lip spoiler (which the Reserve has standard).

The difference in cost? I'd have to pay $5800 MORE for the Accord! That's about 20%!!

Are you getting 20% more car for your money? No way!

Plus, at $36K, I'd be looking at the luxury market (Audi/BMW), not a 4-door family sedan.

Sorry, but I just can't justify paying that premium. I can't see how any smart car shopper would.

For 36K I'd still buy my Sig.

Comparative priced Germans are between 45 and 55. 60 if you want ALL the bells and whistles. IMO

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[TechZeke]

For 36K I'd still buy my Sig.

Comparative priced Germans are between 45 and 55. 60 if you want ALL the bells and whistles. IMO

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My main issue with German cars; It's not enough that the base price is over $50,000 for a 2.0L Turbo, but if I want basic shit like advanced safety equipment, heated and ventilated seats, and LED headlights you have to add $5,000-$10,000 in options. $20,000 over the MSRP of a higher trim Mazda 6 should be more than enough to increase the material quality/fit and finish/performance while still having a nice assortment of standard features.

Look at the Mercedes CLA. You could easily pay $40,000 for it and still end up with reflector halogen headlights on a FWD compact car.