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Anybody who owns the mazda6 have any problem? etc. build quality...

My rear window (driver's side ) not working today. After 2 weeks of ownership.

My oil guage meter sometimes move up & down at idle.

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            Anybody who owns the mazda6 have any problem? etc. build quality...

My rear window (driver's side ) not working today. After 2 weeks of ownership.

My oil guage meter sometimes move up & down at idle.

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Didn't you complain about some minor problems a week or so ago also?

Do you have an oil gauge meter? I thought there was only a warning light for low pressure (and a gas meter, and a tacho)?

Mazda has the world's best build quality. This doesn't mean that nothing ever goes wrong (only that it's rare). The question is how good your dealer is when it comes to fix the problems...
 

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Originally posted by jon


            Anybody who owns the mazda6 have any problem? etc. build quality...

My rear window (driver's side ) not working today. After 2 weeks of ownership.

My oil guage meter sometimes move up & down at idle.

:([/b]
Didn't you complain about some minor problems a week or so ago also?

Do you have an oil gauge meter? I thought there was only a warning light for low pressure (and a gas meter, and a tacho)?

Mazda has the world's best build quality. This doesn't mean that nothing ever goes wrong (only that it's rare). The question is how good your dealer is when it comes to fix the problems...[/b][/quote]

Sorry. it's the gas meter and not the oil meter gauge.
 

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Originally posted by Steve 6er


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Originally posted by jon


            Anybody who owns the mazda6 have any problem? etc. build quality...

My rear window (driver's side ) not working today. After 2 weeks of ownership.

My oil guage meter sometimes move up & down at idle.

:([/b]
Didn't you complain about some minor problems a week or so ago also?

Do you have an oil gauge meter? I thought there was only a warning light for low pressure (and a gas meter, and a tacho)?

Mazda has the world's best build quality. This doesn't mean that nothing ever goes wrong (only that it's rare). The question is how good your dealer is when it comes to fix the problems...[/b][/quote]

Sorry. it's the gas meter and not the oil meter gauge.[/b][/quote]

Strange. Did you take it to the workshop?
 

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Originally posted by jon


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Originally posted by Steve 6er


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Originally posted by jon


            Anybody who owns the mazda6 have any problem? etc. build quality...

My rear window (driver's side ) not working today. After 2 weeks of ownership.

My oil guage meter sometimes move up & down at idle.

:([/b]
Cfm appt. next monday.

Busy for the last 2 weeks.

Didn't you complain about some minor problems a week or so ago also?

Do you have an oil gauge meter? I thought there was only a warning light for low pressure (and a gas meter, and a tacho)?

Mazda has the world's best build quality. This doesn't mean that nothing ever goes wrong (only that it's rare). The question is how good your dealer is when it comes to fix the problems...[/b][/quote]

Sorry. it's the gas meter and not the oil meter gauge.[/b][/quote]

Strange. Did you take it to the workshop?[/b][/quote]
 

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Gas gauges ALWAYS move up and down on every car. If you look at older GM cars, you could see them bobbing with the sloshing of the gas. In most other cars, the gauges move more gradually, but if you do a U turn or something where all the gas moves to one side or another for a few seconds, the gauge will move up or down a bit but should level out after that.

As far as the window, that should be working ;)

And "best build quality in the world". I'm not so sure, and I'm a Mazda diehard. It is very very good, if it doesn't have a huge Ford influence (such as Truck and Tribute); but I would hesitate to say that it is better than either Honda or Toyota. If you ask me, those two are king, with Mazda at a level of build quality and reliability just the next level down (which is still pretty darn good).

Get your 6 fixed !!!
 

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            Gas gauges ALWAYS move up and down on every car.  If you look at older GM cars, you could see them bobbing with the sloshing of the gas.  In most other cars, the gauges move more gradually, but if you do a U turn or something where all the gas moves to one side or another for a few seconds, the gauge will move up or down a bit but should level out after that.[/b]
No, that's not true. Most modern cars have a gas tank and meter construction that make the meter very slow to react on gas volume changes. It doesn't have to be fast since a car normally consumes the gas very slow. On my 626 this has never happened.

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As far as the window, that should be working ;)

And "best build quality in the world".  I'm not so sure, and I'm a Mazda diehard.  It is very very good, if it doesn't have a huge Ford influence (such as Truck and Tribute); but I would hesitate to say that it is better than either Honda or Toyota.  If you ask me, those two are king, with Mazda at a level of build quality and reliability just the next level down (which is still pretty darn good).

Get your 6 fixed !!![/b]
I don't agree with you. In every single examination done, Mazda comes out at the top as of build quality. But of course this is a question of what you mean by the word. Interior detail fit? Then perhaps Mazda isn't best. Reliability? Then Mazda beats them all. Including cars much more expensive. There is statistics to proove this statement, you know.

Honda and Toyota are also good, but remember about Toyota that they are also the masters in cost savings. This comes at a price - for the customer. Thinner metal sheets doesn't necessarily mean weaker constructions, because they know where to save on the metal. But it does in the end mean shorter life span and more problems with rust.

Mazda on the other hand also has problems with corrosion protection. But this will be a problem only if you plan to hold on to the car for 10+ years.:D
 

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Here is the way I see it.

Quality: The materials used in construction, including interior and exterior panels, plastics, fit and finish, paint, etc. Quality may mean nice stuff, but it isn't necessarily screwed onto the car all that well. I think VW when I think quality. Great materials, just not put together all that well.

Reliability: How long the car can run without major repair. It doesn't have anything to do with cracked, cheap plastic, seat fabric tears, rusted out holes in the body, if the car still keeps driving without you throwing a lot of money into it, that's what I see as reliable.

In both respects, at least NOT including the 6, I would say that Toyota and Honda have Mazda beat. Have you seen the build of the new Hondas and Toyotas? The gaps are incredibly narrow, and on the interior you can hardly even tell most gaps exist. All plastics are high quality and for the most part soft to the touch. The paint is excellent as well. The operation of EVERY control is one of precision and a well-oiled feel. There is no clang, snap, hard plastic on hard plastic slamming, no rattles. Now, the current Mazdas are very good, but I still would put them at a level just below Honda and Toyota.

As far as reliability, Mazda is great. I have a 1990 626 that has been hands down the best car I've ever owned and that includes a couple Hondas. I bought it brand new and have 150K miles on the car and have only done routine maintenance except for the replacement of the CV joints. The car IS old, but the motor purrs like a cat and everything works very well, right down to ice cold A/C. While long trips are not without a lot of noise, I have absolutely no fear of being stranded, or the car breaking anytme soon. However, that is just one experience, and I think that as a whole body, both Honda and Toyota cars go longer without needing major repair. For every high mileage Mazda you hear about, you hear about 10 Honda or Toyota cars with 350,000 miles still without rebuilt engines and still on the original clutch. True, there are a lot more H and T cars on the road, but on a per 1000 car basis, I still feel Mazda is just below that level. Mazda is still very good, and I have no problem with their reliability or quality, as it is well above my reqirements.

Keep the conversation coming. When you say there's proof, can you give some? I like to use Consumer Reports, as they base their ratings on the experiences of actual owners of the cars. Mazda is full of the best rating you can receive, but Honda and Toyota have NO slip ups in any of there models. And when you look at the percentage of "above normal" reliability, Honda and Toyota are higher than Mazda. I'm interested in seeing what you have.

Boy, I feel like a internet nerd. What's that saying? Arguing on the internet is like winning a senior citizen foot race. You may have won, but in the end you're still old (or a nerd). ;)
 

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In both respects, at least NOT including the 6, I would say that Toyota and Honda have Mazda beat. Have you seen the build of the new Hondas and Toyotas? The gaps are incredibly narrow, and on the interior you can hardly even tell most gaps exist. All plastics are high quality and for the most part soft to the touch. The paint is excellent as well. The operation of EVERY control is one of precision and a well-oiled feel. There is no clang, snap, hard plastic on hard plastic slamming, no rattles. Now, the current Mazdas are very good, but I still would put them at a level just below Honda and Toyota.[/b]
Jerome,

In Australia, all of our Honda's, Mazda's & Toyota's (except Camry & Avalon) come from Japan.......

The level of build quality for these 3 are extremely high & I have never really encountered any serious issues with quality or reliability...

Quality & reliability are separate issues, but go together hand in hand for a truly great vehicle !!!

I have to say that I feel that these 3 makers are extemely close together .

I think it really depends where your car is made & your experiences with them.....

I feel that these 3 Makers are much better than say Nissan & Mitsubitshi & anything else that is made in Australia Or Korea or even America for that Matter..

Cheers
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            Here is the way I see it.

Quality:  The materials used in construction, including interior and exterior panels, plastics, fit and finish, paint, etc.  Quality may mean nice stuff, but it isn't necessarily screwed onto the car all that well.   I think VW when I think quality.  Great materials, just not put together all that well.[/b]
Not necessarily. Quality means doing the same thing over and over again - exactly the same way. You can quality assure your production according to ISO-9000:2002 even if you build lifejackets out of concrete. And that ain't no nice stuff...:D

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Reliability:  How long the car can run without major repair.  It doesn't have anything to do with cracked, cheap plastic, seat fabric tears, rusted out holes in the body, if the car still keeps driving without you throwing a lot of money into it, that's what I see as reliable.[/b]
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In both respects, at least NOT including the 6, I would say that Toyota and Honda have Mazda beat.  Have you seen the build of the new Hondas and Toyotas?  The gaps are incredibly narrow, and on the interior you can hardly even tell most gaps exist.  All plastics are high quality and for the most part soft to the touch.  The paint is excellent as well.  The operation of EVERY control is one of precision and a well-oiled feel.  There is no clang, snap, hard plastic on hard plastic slamming, no rattles.  Now, the current Mazdas are very good, but I still would put them at a level just below Honda and Toyota.[/b]
Now, you didn't see the 6, so I have to forgive you for that comment...:D

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As far as reliability, Mazda is great.  I have a 1990 626 that has been hands down the best car I've ever owned and that includes a couple Hondas.  I bought it brand new and have 150K miles on the car and have only done routine maintenance except for the replacement of the CV joints.  The car IS old, but the motor purrs like a cat and everything works very well, right down to ice cold A/C.  While long trips are not without a lot of noise, I have absolutely no fear of being stranded, or the car breaking anytme soon.  However, that is just one experience, and I think that as a whole body, both Honda and Toyota cars go longer without needing major repair.  For every high mileage Mazda you hear about, you hear about 10 Honda or Toyota cars with 350,000 miles still without rebuilt engines and still on the original clutch.  True, there are a lot more H and T cars on the road, but on a per 1000 car basis, I still feel Mazda is just below that level.  Mazda is still very good, and I have no problem with their reliability or quality, as it is well above my reqirements.[/b]
You are wrong here also. If you stopped feeling and got the facts from official statistics, you would see this otherwise. There is no more reliable car than Mazda. Mazda's keep coming out as number one as the car with least problems in the annual motor vehicle inspection here in Sweden. (These controls are made by a government controlled facility, and they publish statistics each and every year). Toyota and Honda are fairly good too, but they still have far to the reliability of the Mazdas. This goes both for brand new and older models. (From 1988 or so, when Mazda took a giant leap in build quality. Never even THINK of buying a Mazda from 1986 or earlier, becuase if the corrosion hasn't already eaten it alive, it will the next week or so...)

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Keep the conversation coming.  When you say there's proof, can you give some?  I like to use Consumer Reports, as they base their ratings on the experiences of actual owners of the cars.  Mazda is full of the best rating you can receive, but Honda and Toyota have NO slip ups in any of there models.  And when you look at the percentage of "above normal" reliability, Honda and Toyota are higher than Mazda.  I'm interested in seeing what you have.  

Boy, I feel like a internet nerd.  What's that saying?  Arguing on the internet is like winning a senior citizen foot race.  You may have won, but in the end you're still old (or a nerd). ;)[/b]
Yeah, we're some nerds, aren't we??

Here's just one of the tables from the swedish motor vehicle inspection, stating how many percent of different car models that were disapproved in the annual inspection:

Mazda 626 0
Nissan Micra 0
Skoda Felicia 1
Honda Civic 1
Mercedes-Benz C180 1
Volvo 964 1
Mercedes-Benz C200 1
Toyota Corolla 1.6 1
Nissan Almera 2
Volkswagen Polo 2
Opel Vectra 2.0 2
Volvo 944 GL 2
Ford Fiesta 2
Toyota Corolla 1.3 2
Opel Astra 2
Toyota Carina 2
Toyota Corolla Kombi 2
Toyota Hi-Ace Traveller 2
Saab 900 Turbo 3
Ford Mondeo Kombi 3
Volvo 945 GL 3
BMW 5-serie 6 cyl 3
Volvo 850 GLT 3
Volkswagen Vento 3
Opel Corsa 3
Saab 9000 2.0 3
Saab 9000 Turbo 3
Toyota RAV4 3
Ford Mondeo 3
Saab 900 2.0 3
Skoda Felicia Kombi 3
Opel Astra Caravan 4
Saab 900 2.3 4
Volvo 850 GL,GLE Kombi 4
Citroën Xantia 4
Hyundai Accent 4
Opel Vectra 1.6/1.8 4
Peugeot 306 4
Peugeot 605 4
Volvo 850 GL,GLE 4
Volkswagen Passat Variant 4
Volvo 965 4
Volkswagen Golf 4
Hyundai Elantra 4
Mitsubishi Carisma 4
Seat Cordoba 5
Medelbilen 5 (this means "the average car")
Audi A4 5
Volvo 850 GLT Kombi 5
Audi A6 Avant 5
Renault Clio 5
Volvo 400 5
Volkswagen Golf Variant 5
Audi A4 Quattro (inkl Avant) 5
Renault Megane 5
Ford Scorpio 2.0/2.3 5
Volvo 850 Turbo Kombi 6
Volvo 850 Turbo 6
Audi A6 6
Audi A6 Quattro (inkl Avant) 7
Renault Laguna 7
Audi A4 Turbo 7
Ford Escort 7
Renault 19 7
Ford Escort Kombi 8
Chrysler Voyager 9
Volkswagen Caravelle 9
BMW 3-serie 6 cyl. 11
Volvo S40 11
BMW 3-serie 4 cyl. 12
Renault Twingo 12
Opel Omega Caravan 13
Volvo V40 13
Volkswagen Passat Variant Diesel 13
Volkswagen Sharan (inkl Diesel) 20
 

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Hi ,
In response to Jon who mentioned a moving petrol guage...
I noticed that on my 6 just the other day, but didnt think anything else of it.
If it keeps happening, then I may take it to the dealer.
 

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            Anybody who owns the mazda6 have any problem? etc. build quality...

My rear window (driver's side ) not working today. After 2 weeks of ownership.

My oil guage meter sometimes move up & down at idle.

:([/b]
So far I've not had any problems with my 6...btw, what color is yours?

If after 2 weeks your rear window stops working, you might wanna go back to McPherson and ask them to take a look.

Fuel gauge going up n down is normal for cars. But if you're stationary and idling, then something could be amiss. Just to double check, are your lights dimming and birghtening while your car is idling? If they are, a quick check on the alternator is recommended.
 

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Originally posted by jon


            Anybody who owns the mazda6 have any problem? etc. build quality...

My rear window (driver's side ) not working today. After 2 weeks of ownership.

My oil guage meter sometimes move up & down at idle.

:([/b]
So far I've not had any problems with my 6...btw, what color is yours?

If after 2 weeks your rear window stops working, you might wanna go back to McPherson and ask them to take a look.

Fuel gauge going up n down is normal for cars. But if you're stationary and idling, then something could be amiss. Just to double check, are your lights dimming and birghtening while your car is idling? If they are, a quick check on the alternator is recommended.[/b][/quote]

Mine is sparkling silver. Made appointment with them next week (monday).

The lights did not dimm and brighten when it's idling. Anyway, will keep all of you updated on the problems.
BTW, I've noticed today that the side plastic cover beside the gear knob ( just below the handbreak) is bulging out slightly.

Not so good impression on the build quality
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Originally posted by XTerm


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Originally posted by jon


            Anybody who owns the mazda6 have any problem? etc. build quality...

My rear window (driver's side ) not working today. After 2 weeks of ownership.

My oil guage meter sometimes move up & down at idle.

:([/b]
So far I've not had any problems with my 6...btw, what color is yours?

If after 2 weeks your rear window stops working, you might wanna go back to McPherson and ask them to take a look.

Fuel gauge going up n down is normal for cars. But if you're stationary and idling, then something could be amiss. Just to double check, are your lights dimming and birghtening while your car is idling? If they are, a quick check on the alternator is recommended.[/b][/quote]

Mine is sparkling silver. Made appointment with them next week (monday).

The lights did not dimm and brighten when it's idling. Anyway, will keep all of you updated on the problems.
BTW, I've noticed today that the side plastic cover beside the gear knob ( just below the handbreak) is bulging out slightly.

Not so good impression on the build quality
:( [/b][/quote]

Jon,

It's me. The Due who has the same problem in HK. Don't worry, go back to your dealer and tell them to change the motor and the sensor of your rear window. That't what my dealer here did for me after on te 2nd check up. They fixed on the first time but the window didn't work on the same night so they chamnge the whole thing. Now it's works just fine. But next Monday??? Seems far away.

Also, who ever have the 6 out there! Pls check your rear brake disc and pad as often as your can. As on my other message on "Mazda6 in HK". I told you guys my brake have weird loud sound everyday when I start up. My dealer polished the disc and the pad for me. It was ok for the 1st day but it came back again on the 2nd day. I complaint and you know what they did? brand new pair of disc & pad! so make complaint to your dealer and I'm sure they will do whatever they can to fix it. Afterall, they will not jerpordize the sales of the 6 anywhere in the world.

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Originally posted by XTerm


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Originally posted by jon


            Anybody who owns the mazda6 have any problem? etc. build quality...

My rear window (driver's side ) not working today. After 2 weeks of ownership.

My oil guage meter sometimes move up & down at idle.

:([/b]
So far I've not had any problems with my 6...btw, what color is yours?

If after 2 weeks your rear window stops working, you might wanna go back to McPherson and ask them to take a look.

Fuel gauge going up n down is normal for cars. But if you're stationary and idling, then something could be amiss. Just to double check, are your lights dimming and birghtening while your car is idling? If they are, a quick check on the alternator is recommended.[/b][/quote]

Mine is sparkling silver. Made appointment with them next week (monday).

The lights did not dimm and brighten when it's idling. Anyway, will keep all of you updated on the problems.
BTW, I've noticed today that the side plastic cover beside the gear knob ( just below the handbreak) is bulging out slightly.

Not so good impression on the build quality
:( [/b][/quote]

I meant "handbrake" not "handbreak". Maybe, i want to break it the moment i notice the bulging area. :D :p
 

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Mine is sparkling silver. Made appointment with them next week (monday).  

The lights did not dimm and brighten when it's idling. Anyway, will keep all  of you updated on the problems.  
BTW, I've noticed today that the side plastic cover beside the gear knob ( just below the handbreak) is bulging out slightly.

Not so good impression on the build quality  
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Did you notice the cover for the gear lever being loose? The piece that has the P,R,N,D,S,L and is finished in brushed metal. Mine's wobbling a little. I was wondering if it might have been loosened by the stereo installer coz they took out everything in the car with the exception of the dashboard to get the soundproofing done.
 

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Steve,
You referred to a Swedish motor vehicle inspection that Mazda's do great at

"Here's just one of the tables from the swedish motor vehicle inspection, stating how many percent of different car models that were disapproved in the annual inspection:"

What kind of inspection is this? Why does the Swedish government care if your car works or not? Or is this just a safety check?

Over here, at least in the 3 states I've lived in (California, Oregon, Washington) the only mandated inspections have been for smog and it's pretty hard to fail those unless you've deliberately tampered with or abused or just deliberately not maintained your car (or your car is really old).

Just curious.

MM
 

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            Steve,
You referred to a Swedish motor vehicle inspection that Mazda's do great at  

"Here's just one of the tables from the swedish motor vehicle inspection, stating how many percent of different car models that were disapproved in the annual inspection:"

What kind of inspection is this?  Why does the Swedish government care if your car works or not?  Or is this just a safety check?

Over here, at least in the 3 states I've lived in (California, Oregon, Washington) the only mandated inspections have been for smog and it's pretty hard to fail those unless you've deliberately tampered with or abused or just deliberately not maintained your car (or your car is really old).

Just curious.

MM[/b]
This is for safety reasons. Swedish road safety arrangements are very highly developed. And so our statistics are very good in an international comparison. But it's also a matter of society costs. A person injured in traffic costs plenty for the society in terms of medical care and treatment.

What do they test?
- Emissions
- Lights
- Brakes
- Steering
- Horn
- Windshield wipers
- They also visually inspect all parts under the vehicle, and they do a "shake" test to see if some parts (especially in the steering) are beginning to "loosen up".

All new cars are excepted for the first three years.

Anyway, this is not only in Sweden (but I think we were first...<g> ) cuz I know that when we went into the European Union, the rules became even harder since they were adjusted to the common practice within the union.

My 626 got the doom "failed" over a broken fog light bulb on the inspection this year!!! (I didn't have to go back again for this though, but had I come back the next year and showed the same fault, the car would have been put out of traffic until fixed...)

If you don't fix things that you are obligated to fix in these inspections and you are stopped by the traffic police in a "flying inspection" then you get some severe fines. And also the car is taken out of traffic until you've fixed it...

I think these inspections are a good thing. You can actually trust those old, rusty cars because you know that at least underneath they are good enough. They have working brakes etc...

So you don't have anything of this kind over there?
 

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Seems like a pretty thorough review!
Inspections vary from state to state - there may be states that take a closer look than others. There aren't any national requirements in the US.

MM
 

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            Seems like a pretty thorough review!
Inspections vary from state to state - there may be states that take a closer look than others.  There aren't any national requirements in the US.

MM[/b]
Oh...it must feel a bit unsafe to meet all those old rustomobiles, then?:sarc
 
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