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hi guys, I apologize for this decently long post but I really need some help and I would appreciate it if people could help me out. I recently went and test drove an 03 Accord EX-V6 coupe, 59000 miles. Exterior looked very clean, minus two decent sized scratches on the front bumper. Interior was clean, the leather was taken care of, however there were noticeable oil stains behind the steering wheel and small stains on the seats. Selling price of $15995, KBB lists $16.4 if car is in excellent condition, $15.4 if car is in good condition. Anyways, I thought this seller was a private seller but he told me that he actually owns his own private dealership and he had worked as a specialist in repairing Honda/Acura cars for 15+ years. I was interested in the car and I told him I wanted to get it inspected on Tuesday and he strongly recommended taking it to a Honda dealership, he said he would make all the arrangements, etc. we just had to meet him there. Now, am I paranoid when I think that maybe he has connections/knows friends at these Honda dealerships? I was thinking of making my own arrangements and bringing it to an independent shop instead, maybe even bringing it to a body shop. Plus he said if anything comes up during inspection he wouldn't pay for any of it, nor would he reduce the price of the car to match them. Next, I looked at the Carfax report, car was registered as personal vehicle in Jacksonville, Florida. The very last record shows it being serviced at MIDAS in Jacksonville, Florida with 46,303 miles. No records after that, but the car currently has 59,000 miles and seller said he bought and brought the car from Jacksonville. I asked him for the complete history of service reports but he didn't give it to me, whether he has it or not I don't know. I test drove the car, it felt extremely nice, I really do like it a lot but since this is the first time I've done something like this I just want to cover all my bases.

Thoughts/reactions/advice would all be greatly appreciated.
 

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Eh, that price seems kinda high for that much on the odometer. Think of it this way, the car is 3 years old, with ALMOST 60k miles. That's around 20k per year. Do you drive anywhere near that much per year? You're not gonna get the warranty on the car (at least I think it ran out), it's been used like hell, and you think the guy's acting a little on the shady side. Besides, for $17k, you can get an '06 m6i, BRAND NEW. (look it up in the forums - it exists)

If you insist on this Accord, push for your own dealership/mechanic/body shop. My guess is, the guy's gonna go for an old buddy of his.

It's better to be safe than sorry, right?
 

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Eh, that price seems kinda high for that much on the odometer. Think of it this way, the car is 3 years old, with ALMOST 60k miles. That's around 20k per year. Do you drive anywhere near that much per year? You're not gonna get the warranty on the car (at least I think it ran out), it's been used like hell, and you think the guy's acting a little on the shady side. Besides, for $17k, you can get an '06 m6i, BRAND NEW. (look it up in the forums - it exists)

If you insist on this Accord, push for your own dealership/mechanic/body shop. My guess is, the guy's gonna go for an old buddy of his.

It's better to be safe than sorry, right?
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thank you very much for the response. I was really thinking if he could bring it down to ~15k I would buy the car, hell, I would probably buy it for 15.5k but the problem is the seller isn't really a private seller nor is he a normal retail dealer. I think he should at least take off from the selling price however much the inspection turns out to cost.

Also, I was wrong on the carfax report, the very last record actually shows it being sold at an auction in Missouri , listed as a dealer vehicle with 59,055 miles. Then Carfax tells me to only buy this car if its from a licensed dealer. Not sure what that means, but you can find the guys website here : www.kcmotorcars.com. Looks pretty legit to me.

Lastly, does anybody think I should bring it to a body shop or am I just being too paranoid? I've never been to one, so no idea how much this will cost/what to do.
 

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If you don't feel confident in the car you're looking at, do not purchase. Just take your time, look around or else you'll likely end up with buyer's remorse. This seems a bit too shady to me, he only has 8 things in inventory, and only 2 of which are cars. I'd steer clear and look for a better deal.
 

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Plus he said if anything comes up during inspection he wouldn't pay for any of it, nor would he reduce the price of the car to match them. [/b]

care to explain what this sentence means?
 

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Run, dont walk, away from that deal. Too expensive, too many miles, and way too shady. I think that there are plenty of those on the road and that finding another one would be easy.
 

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Give carmax a try if you're buying used. They have gazillions of Accord there.
 

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I agree this deal is shady. However, lets say he agrees to go to an independent mechanic or body shop that I choose to get it inspected and nothing's wrong AND he agrees to drop the price to lets say 15k-15.4k. Should I buy the car then?

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what this means is that if during the inspection there are things wrong with the car, such as alignment, timing belt, etc. he will not pay to have them fixed, I will have to do that. So if the total repairs come out to $500, he won't pay for any of it and he won't reduce the price of the car by $500. This is all assuming the car has nothing wrong with it.
 

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If he's not gonna reduce the price of the car for legitimate reasons, i.e. they find something broken, what makes you think he'll reduce the price of the car so much just because you want him to?

My opinion? Too much money for that car with those miles.

I don't think it's "shady" though. The car was a trade-in and got sold at auction where this guy picked it up. As such, he's got no idea of the vehicle history. The only potentially 'shady' thing to be worried about is that the car had obviously spent its' life in Florida then suddenly ends up in Missouri on auction. It's common to run away from salvage titles that way; by selling the car in a different state you can sometimes outrun the title branding. But there are plenty of legitimate reasons why a car would be traded-in in a different state too.
 

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what this means is that if during the inspection there are things wrong with the car, such as alignment, timing belt, etc. he will not pay to have them fixed, I will have to do that. So if the total repairs come out to $500, he won't pay for any of it and he won't reduce the price of the car by $500. This is all assuming the car has nothing wrong with it.
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what a crock. Why do you want this car so bad?
 

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3 almost 4 yr. old Honda with 59k miles for 16 grand. It doesn't sound like such a bargain to me. I would pass on it, and avoid all the BS that goes with it.
 

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If he's not reducing the price, what's the point of the inspection? If it's too expensive, then look somewhere else. You can always find another accord around. On a side note, I look the 06 style better.
 

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I'd say walk too... The history does seem alittle odd. There are lots of people out there that will buy cars from an auction, fix whatever, and sell it. Usually its just enough to get it sold and out of thier hands. There could have been body damage that was not reported to insurance that he fixed...

A friend of mine bought an 02 Accord from someone who sounds like this.... It looked fine initially, but after you really look at it, you can tell where some work was done, and now the paint doesnt look right and it makes some odd sounds.

I would MUCH rather pay alittle bit more on a car that I know the history of and know that there is nothing fishy going on with that trying to save a few bucks and getting screwed in the end.
 
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