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Alex on Autos posted up his review on YouTube today. It was the overall ok but in the end he said the 6 did not beat the Camry or the Accord in his eyes.

He loved the looks and liked the handling. He oddly gave the 6 a low grade on road noise.


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Alex on Autos posted up his review on YouTube today. It was the overall ok but in the end he said the 6 did not beat the Camry or the Accord in his eyes.

He loved the looks and liked the handling. He oddly gave the 6 a low grade on road noise.


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Yeah, like Red line, Alex was lukewarm. IMO his quantitative measurements failed in my opinion. Also he relys too much on his memory to drive judgements. The best reviews so far have been from Savagegeese. He was the only reviewer that came out and said that Mazda was in a tricky position. He also spoke to every detail with more care and clarity. He didnt just read a "spec sheet". I saw an Accord and Camry yesterday and I really think people are smoking something if they think thise interiors are better than the 6. Also the Camry continues to be an overwrought oragami-styled mess. The 6 is not a car that can be fully defined by measurements. Its like audio and loudspeakers. Specs never tell the whole story, despite marketing departments pushing them down our throats. IMO

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Alex on Autos posted up his review on YouTube today. It was the overall ok but in the end he said the 6 did not beat the Camry or the Accord in his eyes.

He loved the looks and liked the handling. He oddly gave the 6 a low grade on road noise.


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If there is road noise, it is from the stupid SUV style Falken tires Mazda used.
Put on a better brand A/S tire or better yet a good Summer tire and the noise will be reduced and the performance will be even better (at the cost of slightly lower MPG).

I know they were trying to keep cost down, but some Brembo brakes and better tires on the top trims, would have been the cherry on top of an awesome car (other then the terrible cameras ?
 

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People will always hype the Accord and Camry simply for one reason: Perception. Both vehicles have been around for decades, have consistently been on the upper half of sales charts for midsize vehicles and have always had stellar reputations in regard to overall quality. Cars like the Mazda 6 are for folks like us that refuse to accept the majority vote... and in our case we're rewarded with superior driving dynamics and a more upscale look.
 

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A comparison on autoblog between the Accord 2.0t Touring, Camry XSE, and Mazda 6 Signature. They had some major mistakes in the review, like saying the numbers on the 6 are 227HP and 250 lb/ft torque. They obviously misunderstood the chart they were reading stating 250 hp on premium fuel. Also, made a mistake to say that the Accord doesn't have wireless charging. It drives me crazy when reviewers make major mistakes like that where it's not a hidden or obscure feature or spec.

https://www.autoblog.com/2018/07/24/comparison-honda-accord-toyota-camry-mazda6-sedans/

Their favorite was the Accord (not a surprise) but they said the 6 was the most fun and engaging car to drive.

Some good quotes:

As for the Mazda, its newly available 2.5-liter turbocharged four-cylinder is growlier than the Accord's new turbo mill and not as smooth as either competitor engine. Its output also depends on the gas you use: 227 hp on regular gas and 250 hp with premium. Its 310 lb-ft of torque remains the same with either, however, and you're more likely to notice that any way. It suitably feels stronger than the others off the line, and it benefits from superior responses to driver inputs. The throttle is superb, reacting to delicate inputs without feeling overcaffeinated. It's also unchanged when you press the Sport button, which, unlike those of the other cars here that also fiddle with the steering and suspension, only alters the transmission.

And what an alteration it makes, as Mazda's six-speed downshifts readily and smartly. Brake going into a corner and the transmission will drop a cog for you, not unlike the sport modes of a Mercedes-AMG or Porsche. Yes, it has paddles like the others, but I didn't actually find myself needing them. That's a sign of excellence, which makes it a little more palatable that the best car to drive does not have a manual. It's only available on the non-turbo base model. Boo.
That's right, the Mazda6 is the best one to drive. It's agile, playful and light on its feet. While I wrote last year that the new Camry feels more like the 6, after driving them in short succession, it's still not on the same level. Actually, the Toyota feels about 800 pounds heavier despite the actual disadvantage being 17 pounds. Perhaps Mazda's new-fangled G-Vectoring Control has something to do with that, but I'm crediting its benchmark steering. It's low friction on center with a buttery smooth turn-in and just-right effort. It weights up naturally as you turn through a corner and almost feels hydraulic. A poor man's Porsche wouldn't be far from the truth.
ETA: They updated the review after I posted and first read it. Looks like they corrected some of the mistakes I noticed.
 

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I like owning a Mazda6 Signature even more with its relatively limited exposure and being somewhat of an underdog in the market. To me it makes it more exclusive rather than the glut of Accords and Camrys seen everywhere you look. I've even come to appreciate the lack of any trim specific badging to differentiate the Signature or its turbo engine, just the wheels and subtle spoiler identify the trim level to those in the know. I honestly feel that the Mazda6 Signature is a true standout in the market and its level of refinement is competitive with significantly more expensive vehicles.
 

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I caught this today:

Click me!

I'll be keeping track of this one, just to see what they observe in the long-term.
 

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5 stars from car and driver

https://www.caranddriver.com/mazda/mazda-6

Well, I still am below 2500 miles, and I know that their engines only get better with mileage, so...

Two quotes that I'd like to highlight from C&D, especially to the Accord fanboys:

"This is our favorite mid-size sedan to drive."

And...

"Make no mistake, it’s still the most dynamic sedan in this segment."

Coming from C&D, high praise indeed! Eat it, Honda! lol

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Yeah but not to be a wet noodle. They rated the accord a full 5 stars compared to 4.5 for the Mazda. Also does the car upshift even when your in manual mode?

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I caught this today:

Click me!

I'll be keeping track of this one, just to see what they observe in the long-term.
Yeah, should be interesting since this car only grows on you with age. I wish though they would get facts straight. The Sig does not have "faux wood trim". Jeez, freaking "journalists".

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Yeak mistake from kbb it is japanese sen wood not faux wood trim.


I caught this today:

Click me!

I'll be keeping track of this one, just to see what they observe in the long-term.
Yeah, should be interesting since this car only grows on you with age. I wish though they would get facts straight. The Sig does not have "faux wood trim". Jeez, freaking "journalists".

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I found another review: Click me!

It seems there's a fair amount of new reviews over the past couple weeks, despite the fact the car has been available for the past half-year.

Also, Motorweek on PBS does have a long-term tester on their hands, and the updates they've been giving on their show have been very positive, at least compared to their Camry XSE they also have...
 
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